10 Pieces of Evidence Alternate Realities Exist

Discussion in 'General Science & Technology' started by Alexander1304, Jul 15, 2020.

  1. Alexander1304 Registered Senior Member

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    Hello all,
    I haven't been here for about 5 years,being very busy,but now have something to discuss.
    Do you guys agree with every piece of evidence in this video,or everything can be called into the question,as he himself asks at the end?

    What do you guys think?
    Part of it is scientific,part mysterious
     
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  3. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not watching this shit. If you want to discuss it, summarise the points of interest it makes and we can talk about them.
     
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  5. Alexander1304 Registered Senior Member

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    That's the whole question about it - is this video shit or not?

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    He claims to provide 10 pieces of evidence for alternate realities, starting from : double-slit experiment, then Large Collider,then dreams(claiming the when we dream we experience parallel words),then big bang,some historical artefacts(claiming that they may be slipped from another universe), then woman who claimed to be from another universe,deja vu... Blend science and paranormal. It is hard to me to summarise, it is easier to watch the video . But if this video is shit,then nothing to discuss

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  7. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    OK. See you in another five years then, maybe.
     
  8. Alexander1304 Registered Senior Member

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    I hoped that You will take few minutes to watch the video,maybe there is on something. Do You REALLY think that this is shit not worthy of even watching/discussing?
     
  9. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Alexander, when you were last here, five years ago, you were trying to get me to take an interest in shit videos. : http://www.sciforums.com/threads/woman-claims-she-is-from-a-parallel-universe.153016/#post-3340052

    And now, here you are again, trying to get me interested in..................

    ................see what I mean?

    Unlike, you, apparently, I can learn from experience, you see.

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  10. Alexander1304 Registered Senior Member

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    Ok,thanks even for that
     
  11. Alexander1304 Registered Senior Member

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    Here I am summarizing the video:
    1 .Double slit experiment

    2. Unexplained artifacts

    3.Repeating universes

    4.Supernatural activity(meaning,ghosts may be beings from another universes)

    5.4th Dimension

    6.Large Hadron Collider

    7.Dreams(claiming that we visit parallel universes in dreams)

    8.The visitor from Taured

    9.Lerina Garcia Gordo( woman who claimed to be from another universe)

    10.Alter Vu and Mandella Effect
     
  12. Alexander1304 Registered Senior Member

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    Moderator,please close the thread!
     
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  13. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    The 10 claims listed are enough to qualify the video as a pile of shit

    If you have watched it (I haven't - see above why I haven't), you would have perhaps posted it to some of of the strange people who post in the forum in their private section

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  14. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    If it is actually going to require mention of a specific item to get it done (i.e., the video's cover image not being sufficient)... Then the "London hammer" alone qualifies for the thread being moved to a sub-forum of the "On the Fringe" section.
     
  15. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not convinced that's evidence of "alternate realities". I'm most emphatically not a quantum physicist, but my favored layman's interpretation of the double slit experiment is that unactualized possibilities do have some kind of physical reality. Hence a photon can go through one slit and interact with the possibility that it might have gone through the other slit so as to produce an interference pattern.

    I'm not sure whether that qualifies as an 'alternate reality' theory. It isn't a full-blown many worlds multiverse idea of the modal realism sort. It's more like early David Bohm and his 'pilot waves', where actual reality is surrounded by a cloud of unactualized possibility states corresponding to ways that things might have been, that subtly interact with physical reality and perhaps arguably guide it in whatever ways Bohm imagined his pilot waves doing.

    Or something like that...

    Only suggest the existence of unknown explanations, not necessarily alternative realities.

    I'm not sure what that refers to.

    I don't believe in ghosts, though I do accept that unexplained phenomena can and probably do occur. (Even that idea gets me flamed on Sciforums.) But it's still a huge leap from unexplained phenomena to alternative realities.

    Would be time, wouldn't it? Not to say that time isn't exceedingly mysterious.

    But sure, I can imagine additional spatial dimensions that we are totally unaware of. I can imagine being locked in a totally sealed room and kind of stepping...sideways... in some incomprehensible way out of the room.

    I have no way of knowing whether any additional spatial dimensions like that exist though, so it's totally speculative. It's conceivable though that physics might find some theoretical use for them though (it already has to some extent), some future experiment might verify their existence, and physics might someday provide some means of accessing them.

    What's the relevance to alternative realities?

    I realize that many cultures have traditionally interpreted dreams that way. But I don't. Most of my dreams (what I can remember of them, which typically isn't much since they fade rapidly) seem to consist of scraps of memory from my waking life, assembled in no particular order with a seeming narrative connecting the parts that rarely makes much sense when I wake up.

    I'm inclined to think of that as normal psychological processes at work. We normally try to assemble our experiences into narratives that make sense to us. Science is just one of the ways we do it. So when we are asleep, and memories bubble up, perhaps as part of some process in which they are being read from short term memory and written into long-term storage, the narrative-making function goes to work and tries to generate a story connecting them.

    I have no idea what these mean (and I'm too lazy to google them).
     
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  16. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I haven't watched the video.

    I'm guessing this relates to the "many worlds" interpretation of quantum mechanics. That interpretation is just one possibility, which could be wrong. Therefore, it doesn't count as evidence.

    Nothing that is itself unexplained can be validly used as evidence to explain something else.

    I don't know what that means.

    The existence of ghosts has not been verified.

    The existence of a 4th dimension has not been verified.

    That's a large machine. What is the connection to alternate realities?

    The claim is unsupported by evidence, as far as I can tell.

    I have no idea what this is referring to.

    Without verification, her claims do not constitute evidence.

    I don't know what this is.
     
  17. Alexander1304 Registered Senior Member

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    Hi James. Much of Your comments constitute "I don't know what it is " . Then maybe You watch the video, all this covered there, and then You can express Your more informed opinions
     
  18. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    This is a discussion forum, not a video platform.

    You asked a simple question: "What do we think?"
    Members gave a simple answer: "We think it's junk."

    You want a more in-depth discussion - it starts with you.
     
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  19. Alexander1304 Registered Senior Member

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    Hi Dave, how members can give this simple answer without watching video? It is short one, only 12 minutes. I don't know how to start in-depth discussion about this,I think the simpliest way is just to watch the video and to discuss its validity.Thanks
     
  20. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Online forums, in which starting in-depth discussions is the primary function, may not be for you.
     
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  21. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Most of the junk on the video is rehashed junk, and I am guessing most members have already seen a good portion already elsewhere

    Any junk not seen is guilty by association

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  22. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    I just watched the first part of the video.

    The double slit problem is tremendously interesting, but we already knew that. I don't think that it's convincing evidence of alternate realities though, Discussion of it is a topic for a different thread on quantum mechanics interpretations. (Which would be philosophical and would elicit deafening screeching from the direction of Australia complete with out-of-context Feynman quotes, so best to skip that.)

    His two examples of 'unexplained artifacts' were the 'London hammer' and the 'Antikythera mechanism'.

    Neither one is particularly persuasive for his case. The London hammer (quiet down Exchemist! The London in question is London Texas, the real one, not some obscure place back of beyond in Britain) was a rock that somebody found in 1936 that seemed to have a piece of wood sticking out of it. The rock was later broken open to reveal a metal hammer head with a broken-off wooden handle inside. The metal composition of the hammer head proved to be nothing special and its style was late 19th century. The narrator tossed out something about "carbon 14 dating" along with a claim that the rock in which the hammer was encased was 500 million years old. That isn't consistent with the wood in the handle surviving. (And C-14 dating isn't really able to provide dates that old.) What the London hammer appears to me to be is a later 19th century hammerhead whose handle may have broken off, fell in mud and became encased in a concretion.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concretion

    The Antikythera mechanism is more interesting. It's an elaborate gear-work found in the remains of a Hellenistic shipwreck from about 100-150 BCE. It's often described as an "analog computer" but it's probably more accurate to describe it as an orrery. These are clockwork models of the heavens, sometimes quite elaborate, that show the positions of the planets in the sky on particular dates. Modern planetarium projectors are their direct descendants. The Antikythera mechanism is made of brass, is certainly consistent with the technology of the Hellenistic period, and appears to have generated a geocentric view of the heavens.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orrery

    Repeating universes was something kind of vague and incomprehensible about the big bang, that drifted off into eternal return speculations. Nothing like evidence that I could see.

    I lost interest at that point.
     
  23. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    You've given me no reason to invest 12 minutes of my time watching the video. There's no sign that you even understand its content.

    I'll wait for you to invest a little time and effort before I choose to invest any more of mine.
     

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