# A conversation with an ex IDF commando

Discussion in 'World Events' started by otheadp, Sep 24, 2007.

1. ### NorsefireSalam Shalom SalomRegistered Senior Member

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Lebanon belongs to Syria, in every right and manner. That's why there wasn't a Lebanon before the French colonialism...but there was a Syria long before that.

Evil Israelis? Their Government, but the people of Israel are as much my Brothers as the people of Iran. No, we should be defending from the "evil Americans".

And you still don't know what extremist means. Buffalo, not all Arabs/Muslims are extremists or terrorists, just like not all Israelis/Jews are.

3. ### Hurricane AngelI am the MetatronRegistered Senior Member

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Greater Syria doesn't exist.

5. ### NorsefireSalam Shalom SalomRegistered Senior Member

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Yet....

But Lebanon is a part of Syria. Simply look before the colonialism, there was no such thing as Lebanon, at least not as its own country.

That, and the fact that I'd say most Lebanese support annexation.

7. ### Buffalo RoamRegistered Senior Member

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Isn't that Hitler's excuse for the "Anschluss" that most Austrians were for it, and how about Czechoslovakia and autonomy for the Sudetens, and the annexation of the Sudetenland, do you have a Hakenkreuz, in you bedroom? Mien Kamph maybe?

8. ### NorsefireSalam Shalom SalomRegistered Senior Member

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What does Syria have to do with Germany? Perhaps that was Hitler's ideals, but Hitler was crazy. And besides, that was a mere belief, whereas it is fact that Lebanese land belongs to Syria.

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re-read BR's post again. he is comparing Syrian claims and German claims. it's a very good analogy.

you know, most of the wars in Europe were caused by these disagreements about borders... about who owned which piece of land when, and who should really be the real owner of it given the minority populations that kept changing their citizenship after border lines were re-drawn.

in the interest of peace and stability there should be no wars to "reclaim" the land. almost every country that has a border has some historical claims over another country. those borders were drawn and re-drawn in blood.

it's irrelevant that there was no Lebanon 60 or more years ago. the fact is that it's there now, the country has a distinct culture, dialect, national identity, interests, etc. it is therefore not a part of Syria.

and it's nonsense that "most Lebanese want to be annexed". right... that's why Syrian intelligence services are assassinating anti Syrian politicians, right?

10. ### Buffalo RoamRegistered Senior Member

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But you are espousing the exact same insanity that Hitler used for his excuse to start WWII.

It started with small claims of land to protect the Germany People, and to have lebensraum, isn't that exactly what you and your Hero Bashar al Assad are espousing.

Everything that you espouse about Israel come directly from Mien Kamph, Hitler's own soul, and mad dream.

alJazeera Magazine
The Nazi - Arab connection existed even when Hit liar first seized power in ... the founders of the ruling Syrian Bath Party, recalls \"We were ray cysts. ...
http://aljazeera.com/news/newsfull.php?newid=35569

11. ### NickelodeonBannedBanned

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Goodwin's Law?

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what an interesting concept! its' funny that 90% of the topics on Sci's "Poilitics" and "World Events" forums end up with someone invoking Hitler

13. ### NorsefireSalam Shalom SalomRegistered Senior Member

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Of course this isn't for any reclamation. It's in the best interests of Syria and Lebanon to unite. Lebanon would enjoy all of the benefits of being part of Syria. Maybe that's not alot, but as a part of Syria, it would be richer and stronger (defintely so, at least a little).

Syrian and Lebanese culture and dialect are very, very close.

Nope. I'd safely say most Lebanese would not mind annexation. And there is no proof that Syria is behind the assasinations. It actually makes sense that Israel was behind the assasinations.

Buffalo, that little bit of fact is not something I support. I do know about the connection, but that was the past and had I been alive then, I would not have supported it.

14. ### Buffalo RoamRegistered Senior Member

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Norsefire

I doubt it, everything you post says that you would.

15. ### NorsefireSalam Shalom SalomRegistered Senior Member

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Support the eradication of an entire people? The subjugation of innocence? War and crime? Poverty and chaos?

Nope. I would not.

16. ### Buffalo RoamRegistered Senior Member

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List of German films 1933-1945 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
While not as highly regarded as the Weimar films, the films of Nazi Germany ..... Propaganda film about how "well" the Jews were treated in Concentration ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Films_in_the_Third_Reich

The Germans were very proud to tell all how well they treated the Jews in their wonderful concentration camps,

Education - Book Review
It was in the interest of the Nazi-regime to prove that Auschwitz was a peaceful, safe camp, in which the Jews were well-treated, with no occurrences of ...

And you again are using the same techniques as the Nazi, You want to spread the Myth of how happy the Jew is in the Care of the Syrians, the same propaganda that the Nazi's spouted.

17. ### S.A.M.uniquely dreadfulValued Senior Member

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How many people you killed in your life Buffalo? Innocent people whose country you invaded?

Ever go back and see the results of your hubris?

You're a fine one to be teaching morals to a young boy.

18. ### Baron MaxRegistered Senior Member

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The South Vietnamese asked the USA for help against the invasion from the North Vietnamese forces. So it wasn't an invasion by the USA, Sam.

In fact, if you're so against invading countries, you should be highly pissed off at North Vietnam. But notice that you're turning it around ...because of your hatred of the USA.

Baron Max

19. ### S.A.M.uniquely dreadfulValued Senior Member

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Uh thats the revised American history you're spouting.
Typical ignorance and hubris.

20. ### NorsefireSalam Shalom SalomRegistered Senior Member

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Two things:

The Nazis did not want the outside world to know of such atrocities.

And news flash: Syrian Jews are treated very well, but of course that is not the case with Israeli Muslims, it's Israel you should be talking about.

21. ### Buffalo RoamRegistered Senior Member

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Norsefire, you still haven't explained how you could have been a neighbor to Jew's in Syria, there are only about 50 left in Syria,

SYRIA GIVING JEWS FREEDOM TO LEAVE - New York Times
Previously, Syrian Jews wishing to travel abroad had to leave at least one family member behind and had to post bonds in the range of $1000 per person, ... http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...es Topics/Subjects/I/Immigration and Refugees In 1992 there were only 4,500 left, and they were treated so well, that in 1995 only 50 chose to remain when Syria lifted the travel and immigration restrictions. Yes, how well the Jews were treated by the Syrians, family members held hostage to keep traveling family members in line, pay a$1,000 dollars Bail Bond, per-person to travel out side the country.

So again how old are you? To have lived with Jewish neighbors in Syria?

22. ### NorsefireSalam Shalom SalomRegistered Senior Member

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Obvious BS. But of course, you never adress how Muslims are treated within Israel.

Now, yes, my neighborhood in Latakia was primarily Christian with some Jews, and I never noticed Jews upset.

Remember, there is a difference between Proud Syrian Jews and Syrian Jews that want to betray their country.

Most Syrian Jews are proud of being Syrian though.

Just like Iran has the most (after Israel) Jews in the ME.

23. ### Mr.SpockBack from the deadValued Senior Member

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you see, syrians actually think lebanon is theirs, and they use it for their ops mission on israel as a third party so it wont look like as if they are responsible, but when israel invades lebanon for defensive measures after being attacked, all of the demons are out of the bottles.

why ho why, if hezbullah are such great heroes and defenders of lebanon, they dont "resist" the syrian invasion?

syria isnt israel(jews).