Are all man’s inventions doomed to fail?

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  1. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    Can you name anything that isn’t?
     
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  3. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    How can we possibly know if something is "doomed to fail"?

    How would we determine whether or not the wheel was "doomed to fail"?
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Wheels
    Fire
    Spoons
    Cups
    Shoes
    Clothing

    to name a few.
     
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  7. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    So you believe those objects are 100.001 % efficient?
     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. Cups do not have an efficiency. Neither do spoons.
     
  9. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    How insightful
     
  10. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    You think humans invented fire???

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  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Humans invented methods to start, contain and use fire.
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Why thank you!
     
  13. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    So you believe they aren't? (How are you measuring efficiency?)
     
  14. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    You didn't ask about efficiency. You asked about doomed to failure.
     
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  15. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    I asked about anything that isn’t doomed to failure. That was the original question. Someone mentioning shoes and other things obviously missed the point.

    silence would have spoken more volumes but now we have ourselves a logical argument.

    is billvon misled, correct, or incorrect?
     
  16. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    What do you mean by "doomed to fail"? Can you please give us an example or two of things that are "doomed to fail"?
     
  17. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    So what has efficiency got to do with that?
    And I am asking, What IS the point?
    I would say that billvon is usually correct. In this case, i think he gave a good answer to your question. If you don't like it, you're going to have to be more clear about wtf you're asking.
     
  18. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    Well the fact it exists gives it 100%. The fact it does work brings the percentage down. Compare it to a machine that may work faster. Add in wear and tear… statistics… safety can also influence efficient production. if the operator gets hurt the machine usually stops running you hope.

    Or I can calculate the cutting speed of a endmill or face mill for a particular metals most efficient removal. Sometimes it runs too fast and moves too slow creating small hot chips. Some metals like aluminum are softer which allows for the mill itself to move at a faster pace.
     
  19. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    Well in order to last forever something would have to be over one hundred percent efficient.

    and there might be some answers but they are certainly not man’s inventions…
     
  20. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    That's not the definition of efficiency. You are thinking of durability or longevity, neither of which is required for a sucessful invention.
     
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  21. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    Since when has the definition of a word really explained it’s usefulness?

    durability and longevity are increasing factors of efficiency. the fact that they are doomed to break is no fault of mine.

    nobody mentioned successful…

    and I disagree most successful inventions are durable. And the processes that makes them are efficient. What isn’t efficient is excessive thought on this matter.
     
  22. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    So, are we all agreed that all man's inventions aren't doomed to fail, then?
     
  23. foghorn Valued Senior Member

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    What invention will replace pipes and hoses?
    I'm not saying they will be around forever.
    Teleporting.
     
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