Climate change Sea Ice Melt Glacia melt the developing science

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  1. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    climate change weather bombs ....
    looks like japan is experiencing one currently

    it will be interesting to see how these effect north America with the shifting of the polar vortex.
     
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    says the man who sold the little boy the matches that the little boy is holding beside the burning fire ...

    there is no direct link

    do you mind !

    the adults are talking !
     
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    Latest news massive ice shelf breaks up and floats out to sea
    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-53737138


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  7. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Uh, unless it is in balance with a local climate significantly altered by AGW - which it appears to be, since it is in balance with a strong surface melt in summer.

    Then it would be a fine example of global warming.
     
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  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    sea temp including sea acidity increase seems to be compounding to exponentially increase melt rates faster than the main stream of conservative scientific guesses

    keeping in mind most of the scientists didn't want to be the ones screaming fire in a crowded cinema even if it was on fire
    understandable considering the sustained hideous attack they have been under from governments and political organizations and big corporates with bottomless money pockets
    all targeting the little guy scientist
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56424338

    Antarctic seafloor exposed after 50 years of ice cover



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  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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  11. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    The day the climate never changes, no ice is melted in the poles, the environment is stable without catastrophes, in that day I will scare a lot about what will be next because such is ABNORMAL.

    I think best is to build new cities away from the shore if the oceans will rise their level several feet up, and get used to hot weather if the sun's rays will make you crazy on summer time. Using electric cars won't reverse the hotter cycle and you are dreaming the tendency will be over soon because you recycle plastic and go to work in your bike instead of the car.

    Too late.

    Just adapt to the new era, and be happy with.

    I remember in the 70's a group of guys were a;ways claiming for year 2000 the sky will be dark green and no scattered clouds will be seen but a whole cloudy covering impeding the sun light to pass thru. I never paid attention to them and continued driving my old oil burning car while they were always afraid of the future.

    Year 2000 came and the ski was still showing scattered clouds and it had the same blue tone as always. I was so pleased with myself I never paid attention to those alarmists and I enjoyed life.

    In the 90's, some days of January were warm over 75 degrees, I didn't mind at all and went to work wearing a T shirt. Simple as that. 10 years before I was to remove three feet of snow in front of my house. And if for next years snow is 10 feet high or none at all, I will just enjoy winter the way it comes.

    We don't control the weather, and this is a fact, so, why to worry about something we can't control? Best is to adapt.
     
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  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Reducing our emission of carbon will absolutely make the climate warm less for our grandchildren.
    I'd recommend heeding scientists and not a random "group of guys."
    We do control the amount of warming we create.
     
  13. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    Poles in planet Mars are also diminishing in size, who is to blame for that, martians driving UFO's?
     
  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i like your writing. it is very good(feels like morphine)
    is it your words ?
    or
    have you read someone else's words and agreed with them and then posted them as your opinion ?
    i understand you are using a translation process also, which makes things difficult.


    if no one worries about where the next meal is coming from what will people eat (?) each other ?

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    addendum sub-narrative discourse (the conversation beside the conversation also in-between the lines of the conversation)
    : culture

    culture formats of psychological ideological construction
    certain types of social control systems define types of alternate thinking.
    this creates conspiracy culture dynamics inside cultural conceptualizations.
    in turn this eventuates as a cultural conspiracy ideological reality.

    "deniers" denying what ? religion ? god ? science ? humans ability to effect change ?
    things that are bigger than their comprehension ?
    things that they feel are outside their ability to control & in turn control others ?
    how many people does it take to start a global nuclear war ?
    will that be climate change ?
    is that human create capable of changing the earths climate ?
    patriarchal sexual addictive psyche construction
    indoctrinated thinking models of forced culture into childrens minds
    go big or go home
    a big ending is better
    large explosive functional equations as process compliant thought form.
    the nature of self
    im so small i cant change what i want so nothing can be changed by others.
    if i cant change it, no one can
    ...

    this is science
    human science
    human science of the mind


    patriarchal dogmas stuck in a poor state f sexual development seeking no change and no ability of others to have the power that they do not
    to maintain their hold on power
    this is the nature of tribalised thinking & conformist psychological control as an anti science position.


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  15. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    just got hacked
    hhmm..
    maybe someone backdoored me while i was online
    seems to be running ok now
     
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  16. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    blame versus science ...
    the game of cultural control & repression of people


    rolling out the martian UFO trope is a bit of a white flag of defeat you have lost & cant think of anything else.

    tropes of defeat
    he laid himself on the tropes of his own defeat
    as he played his last worst act to the audience, as light & attention faded.



    that's not very creative

    if you cant eloquently discus the metaphors inside paradigms as you started out then making false claims and tin foil hat dog whistle comments is not going to be interesting to me.
    unless you can show some intellectual power in a creative response to this i shall ignore your posts from now on.

    i shall steer the thread back to the subject shortly.
     
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  17. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    take the long view:

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    2.5 million years of climate deterioration with super cold mis 16 and mis 12
    and then @400,000 years ago- mis 11 a reprieve and some warmth
    yippee
    If we are in a repeat of mis 11

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    400kyr cycle
    expect
    a forested arctic ocean shore
    an ice free southern Greenland
    and average sea level to increase by 6-13m
     
  18. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://www.antarctica.gov.au/about...climate-change/ice-sheets-and-sea-level-rise/



    50% increase of melt rate over 10 years






    what is the melt rate now between 2011 & 2021 ?
     
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  19. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://www.antarctica.gov.au/about...climate-change/ice-sheets-and-sea-level-rise/

     
  20. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    so it is obvious
    there is no mystery involved
    it appears once melt gets past a certain point it will crate a sudden fast melt as it floats the entire ice sheet which makes it thaw dramatically faster because it is melted by the warm sea

    the sea bed of the ice sheet seats against a hollowed out rock base that is below sea level
    so as the edges melt it will suddenly let the ocean in under it
    once this happens things will change quickly

    i am guessing a sudden quick sea level rise (possibly only a few center-meters maybe) followed by exponential faster sea level rise as it melts

    huge big scary monster is
    where is that tipping point ?

    and
    how far away are we from it ?
     
  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    Iceland melting glaciers
    pictures show around 50% melt in 10 years of the glacier front seaward edge
    note the pictures
    see where the glacier reaches on the far side mountain, then see where it is at now
    roughly 50% has melted



    https://news.sky.com/story/desperat...e-world-and-theyre-just-disappearing-12067610

    as more land is exposed it increases the melt speed as it attracts more heat from the sun

    a lot of the protection from warming is the reflective quality of the white ice & snow
    as that melts its likely causing exponential melt speed
    combined with ocean warming melting even faster from underneath on the sheets
     
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