Do you think that AI will ever feel emotions?

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  1. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Dihydrogen monoxide, a remarkably useful chemical compound. Unfortunately, it is toxic in large amounts. But many office buildings expose you to it every day! Take action, River!
     
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  3. river

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    Nevertheless we are fundamentally discussing about extremely Cold temperatures .
     
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  5. river

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    Don't work in an office building .
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    FMD!!! I don't believe it. Dementia?
     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly! You thought you were talking about extremely cold temperatures; you said -150C is cold. And as I just proved to you, to high temperature superconductors (i.e. superconductors like YBCO that can work at a high temperature) -150C is way too hot. Do you see your mistake?
    Where would you work, river, to avoid being exposed to toxic DHMO?
     
  9. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    So...a few of the little bullies discover a new way to describe plain water and just have to try to validate their miserable existence...?
     
  10. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    lol

    Spin off thread idea - can robots become bullies?
     
  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You weren't there for that ridiculous discussion with River, so you don't know anything about his shenanigans. You speak from ignorance.

    This is way off-topic. It belongs in your bullying thread.
     
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  12. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    dmoe is just being dmoe.
     
  13. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    You have no idea (ergo: you are ignorant as to) what Threads I Follow/Read.

    Gang abusing river because he DOES NOT KNOW that DHMO is simply Water is NOT ON TOPIC.
     
  14. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    DMOE has an issue with DHMO. I see!

    The reason it's relevant is that River tends to debate based on what an argument sounds like, rather than whether it has any scientific validity. Hence if you "feel like" robots can't have emotions that's what you argue no matter what the facts are. If you "feel like" -150C is super cold from every perspective that's what you argue, no matter what the facts are. If you "feel like" DHMO sounds dangerous then you argue against it - again, no matter what the facts are.

    About three minutes of research would inform him better in all the above cases. Thus, by doing even that minimal amount of research he could avoid being tripped up by the DHMO issue. I seek to encourage him to do that, since ordinary reminders certainly don't work.
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed. Getting back on topic is a good idea.
     
  16. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    ...Shakes head... see : http://www.sciforums.com/threads/pa...drogen-oxide-universe-to-be-published.141213/

    After I read 2 or 3 of rivers Posts, some 9 years or so in the past, it became obvious to me that river was a person that English was possibly a Second Language.
    If you are going to Teach, then Teach...
    Teaching does not entail Teasing, Tormenting or Abusing...as an adult you must know that.
     
  17. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I tried that. This time I thought I'd try to get him to think.
    I find teaching often entails asking questions, letting people fail at answering them - and then letting them figure out the answers to those questions. Often that works better than lecturing them.

    But to get back on topic -

    Over the years people have claimed a lot of things about emotions - including that animals don't have them, and even that some people didn't have them. ("They don't feel sadness/loss/pain as much as we do" was a common rationalization for what people did to slaves back in the 1800's.) Until we can define what "feeling an emotion" means it will be impossible to answer this question.

    If, on the other hand, you can define emotions by what it makes the being DO - then AI already feels emotions. My car, for example, is terrified of high closing speeds, and will beep, flash lights and (eventually) slam on the brakes when it senses them.
     
  18. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    What is the statistical probability that I can create a thread that stays on topic?

    I haven't quite decided if this is a rhetorical question or not.
     
  19. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Congratulations you went off topic in the original post

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  20. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    No, no second language at all. Simply put and as he has shown, river is a troll, an ignorant troll, but a troll none the less.
    Your own posts also reflect trollish behaviour and have for many years dmoe. This act does not fool me. You would be a C grade actor in Hollywood methinks.
     
  21. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Pseudo-intelligence?

    Artificial Intelligence, Really, Is Pseudo-Intelligence
    November 21, 20143:51 PM ET
    https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2...al-intelligence-really-is-pseudo-intelligence

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    https://hbr.org/2019/11/the-risks-of-using-ai-to-interpret-human-emotions
     
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  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Not true at all. Neural networks have - quite accurately - imitated the intelligence of insects, which are far more advanced than amoebas.
     

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