Do you think that AI will ever feel emotions?

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  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes.

    .. which exist in the physical world.

    Biochemistry is a subset of chemistry. There are may other subsets: inorganic chemistry, forms of oxidation, formation of salts, polymer chemistry, etc.

    So what?
     
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  3. river

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    Bio-chemistry focuses on life , proteins and nucleic acids .
     
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  5. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, I've also had a few "so what?" moments from river today. Strange.

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  7. river

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    Bio-chemistry is about Life . Chemistry is not about Life .
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Chemistry is not exclusively about life.

    But life is part of chemistry.
    And chemistry is part of life.
     
  9. river

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    Life manipulates the Periodic Table . Minerals . To Manifest Life .

    Your right , Chemistry is not exclusively about Life .

    Chemistry is about Energy , about Matter , about Quantum .
     
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  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    We've covered this.
    So does every other form of chemistry.

    Rust manipulates the periodic table.
    So do salts in solution.
    So does all chemistry.

    That's the definition of chemistry.
     
  11. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Life, all of it, is a result of chemistry. That's all that matters.
     
  12. river

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    Not The Definition of Life .
     
  13. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Another "so what" moment.
     
  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah.

    river, I think you need to start responding in full, complete sentences. It's not up to us to divine what you're thinking from the crumbs of what you say.
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Any defining of life is best seen as distinguishing a rock from a animal/human. One is alive, the other isn't.
    Of course though science has a much more refined definition of life, or as NASA once put it, "A self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution".
     
  16. river

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    No Problem .

    Where would you like to start ?
     
  17. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    https://astrobiology.nasa.gov/research/life-detection/about/#:~:text=The NASA definition of life,life we know —Terran life.
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    The NASA definition of life, “Life is a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution” and considered the specific features of the one life we know —Terran life.

    Background from The Limits of Organic Life in Planetary Systems.
    For generations the definition of life has eluded scientists and philosophers. (Many have come to recognize that the concept of “definition” itself is difficult to define) We can, however, list characteristics of the one example of life that we know—life on Earth:

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    • Living systems that have emerged on Earth have done so by a process of random variation in the structure of inherited biomolecules, on which was superimposed natural selection to achieve fitness. These are the central elements of the Darwinian paradigm.
     
  18. river

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    paddoboy said:

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    Not without the earleist forms of Life . A Billion years ago .
     
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  19. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Word salad...
    At one time there was no life, then there was. At the same time the elements existed as synthesised in the belly of stars.
    As a result, we were all born in the belly of stars.
    Why not just recognise fact river, instead of applying your opiniated mumbo jumbo?
     
  20. river

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    There was no begining , pad .
     
  21. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    That's just a guess river.
    But this isn't a guess...once there was no life, [just spacetime, planets and stars and supernova...then there was.
     
  22. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    And of course the overwhelmingly supported BB, does require a beginning/evolution/emerging of space and time [spacetime] as we know them.
     
  23. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I'll answer that for Dave.
    [1] Learn some mainstream science...become familiar with the how's and why's and wherefor's
    [2] Learn how theories all gain in certainty over time, as long as they keep making correct predictions. eg: Einstein's GR predicted gravitational waves over 100 years before we detected them]
    [3] Rid yourself of your illogical and obvious "anti mainstream" phobia...some actually get really silly and inane.
    [4] Reference your many unsupported claims with reputable links and references.
    [5] Stop making silly unsupported claims, with such certainty but without evidence, links or references.
     

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