Does the possibility that life has no meaning, bother you?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by wegs, Aug 13, 2019.

  1. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Non-sequitar!
    Unplanned does not equate to unwanted...
     
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    if your god is a man
    how can he know what its like to be a woman and ultimately create a woman ?

    if god had a gender it would be more likely to be male than female
    assuming god is not a bisexual hermaphrodite

    sexuality reveal party ?
     
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    my question is at the end of a debate
    the debate i have not posted
    the scientific reality is the fact
    the human ability to control ones own emotions & how they treat others is the core
    the value of human life is the core

    the transference of self accountability over the suffering of life & human life to a god aspect to remove ones self accountability is the core

    the hypocrisy of those who dictate morals on others yet oppose social security
    universal health care
    universal housing
    universal food

    placing the "fact" before the human life value
    by defining a post deductive reason of ends dictates the means
    thus abject morals over subject morals

    "meaning" = suffering
    the right to suffer
    the right to watch others suffer
    etc ...
    im shortening a rather in depth concept which most people simply leap frog like a zealot into & apply their indoctrinated bully morality of supremacy over others as a form of playing god

    thus meaning of suffering
     
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  7. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    One could think if a small tribe all would get health care, housing and food..or a life boat would the food not be shared equally?

    But then you see these monkeys in the hot springs excluding some tribe members from the comfort of the warm water...so funny humans in a small group can act better than monkeys ( well at least in a life boat) but up the numbers and we find tribe members starving without a home dieing from a health problem they can't pay someone to fix.

    Anyways why should I care, I have my van and plenty of food and not dieing of something I can't afford to have fixed.

    And so funny usually those looking for the meaning in life could not give a rat's about the needy...they only look for meaning because they have time on their hands and well fed etc. Rather than what is the meaning of life they could ask..can I help anyone?
    Alex
     
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    What if there was no one who needed help in the world? Would life no longer have meaning?

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    As long was there is at least one man (person) and one telescope, life has meaning.

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  9. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Does the possibility that life has no meaning, bother you?

    No
     
  10. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Funny once that was my thing..I just loved helping people..I still do...however it is so nice not to feel needed..I mean you are only kidding yourself but one gets the feeling it will all colapse if you don't go into the office today..well back then it would...but the reason I survived and did it was never for me strangely..it was to give the staff jobs and good bonuses, to help the vendors, the buyers the tenants and the landlords. It was like a hobby and not about the money...but now...
    Yes now it's all about me... I live like I want to full on...now a little money helps when you are talking telescopes and mounts and cameras... I figure on past numbers that each photo in the future is costing me around a grand... five good ones a year and maybe I have five years left at it...it is crazy really...but when I remember where I was as a kid and all I have done and now doing I am happy as I could be...I don't need meaning being the shallow character I am...saw a huge black snake earlier ..it's winter..I am more interested in what that means...and as frisky as mid summer snake..that is odd...don't mind a black so good it was not a brown..if it had been a brown I may not be here..nasty when frisky.
    Alex
     
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  11. pluto2 Valued Senior Member

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    Life has no meaning unless you're very rich and you need to be very rich to become happy.

    But the system is designed so that most truly hard-working people will never become billionaires so the system kind of wants to keep us slaves to money.

    With that said, I think that life only has meaning if you're good-looking and very rich, otherwise you will never achieve most of your goals, dreams and aspirations and that means most people who are not rich or good-looking will never achieve most of their their hopes and dreams.
     
  12. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I think we live in a very “works based” culture where our accomplishments while they have value sure, become the sole measure of a person’s worth. But I’m of the opinion that finding meaning and purpose has little to do with output and one’s earning potential. For example, does a doctor who chooses to earn a low wage in a third world country find life to have less meaning because he/she isn't earning as much as a doctor in North America? I'd have to say the doctor in the third world country might find more value in their contribution to society, because they're less driven by money as the arbiter of success. This doesn't mean all doctors in NA are driven by money, but some are, and to that end, I don't consider them to be ''successful.''

    If money is what drives you in life, you'll eventually realize that it will become your master in life. For all those who have lost their incomes and/or jobs during Covid19, I'm hopeful they aren't jumping off cliffs because suddenly...life has no meaning now that they're faced with financial adversity. Money is a necessary means of exchange to provide shelter, food, clothing, etc., but if it is the sole thing that drives you in life, it's going to be a depressing life, for money comes and goes.
     
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  13. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    How silly, self-pitying, defeatist and wrong. You've played this violin before. I think you should snap out of it.

    It is commonly observed that people with very little, in poor countries, often seem happy with their lives. People finding meaning from all sorts of things. Very often it is connected to recognition by others in some way. In other words, a sense of something to be proud of. Lack of any recognition can undermine an individual's sense of identity and have the effect of making life seem pointless. But it has little or nothing to do with wealth or looks. That is a very shallow and materialistic view.
     
  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    have you never met a work a holic who has made millions but cant stop working and doesnt really spend the excesses of what they earn ?
    i have, several of them in different shapes and sizes.
    some nice the occasional very distasteful
    its not all that easily polarized

    you cant simply swap power & control issues in place of money to equate the same human personality disposition toward what happiness is

    i have met and chatted with a millionaire who likes to work in customer service
    low to middle lower class income bracket
    thats what makes them tick, they love it
    they don't need to work, but that is what makes them happy.
     

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