Empathy

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Bowser, May 24, 2019.

  1. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    lol
    biden is trustworthy Alexandria is not because she is a woman

    really ?
    your playing the same deck of cards ?

    how terribly sexist and bitter is the heart of the republican voters ?
     
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  3. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    What exactly are you here for then? You make a claim--or voice an opinion--then you ought to be able to support it, when queried. If you're not gonna do that, then just fuck off.
     
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  5. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    And what the hell does that even mean? Do you honestly believe that Hillary Clinton somehow posed a threat to your existence or livelihood? And in what ways has Donald Trump protected you?

    The fact is, Trump genuinely poses an existential threat to millions of people--possibly even hundreds of millions, or even billions. And that's not even hyperbole!

    So, seriously, explain the bullshit you post, or just go fuck off.
     
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  7. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Sure it is - as much as anybody else's.
    Your adopted status as a Republican sucker is your voluntary choice. You can always repent, and join the adults who are trying to get stuff done and clean up the mess.
    Yet you do almost nothing else.
    But the country would be much better off.
    You don't even know who "the left" are.
    Penny drop yet?
    That opinion is not yours.
    You haven't had an opinion of your own about a Presidential candidate in thirty years. That's why you can't back it up with specifics and reasoning and so forth.
     
  8. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    My explanation is that I have opinions. I am allowed. Anyways, the original post is simply recognition that I understand your pain. I was heavily invested in that election, too.
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    aka pitch ya troll behaviour somewhere else
     
  10. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    the political republican equal to that women is all the NRA supporters

    white men going into white low crime middle class urban areas waiving guns around

    trying to install fear
    which is actually terrorism

    but supposedly thats ok in the usa

    what would happen if a rumor was started saying wall street banks and brokers had muslim extremists working in them with nefarious intent ?
    would the person making such rumors be chased by government agencies and labelled a terrorist ?
    or is the label of "politics" suddenly allowed to be applied to apologize for being a anarchist war monger fascist ?
     
  11. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Just wondering - Do you support Trump; do you feel that he's been a good President so far? Or did you cast your vote for him, to avoid voting for Hillary?
     
  12. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    A world of saints would be the worst possible future. I really like your choice of words "repent."

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    How so? I post a thread showing understanding and you take insult?

    The word has lost meaning at present. Would you like to take a crack at defining it.

    Thanks for telling me which opinions I can call my own
     
  13. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    At the time it was a choice between two evils, choosing the least of the two evils. I'm fine with the guy at present. He brought color back to the presidency, and I do believe he is insane, but in a good way. As for the "Left," they appear to be insane too, but in a bad way. I think it will be a two-term presidency, providing he doesn't involve us in a war with Iran. An impeachment attempt by the Democrats right now would probably secure the 2020 election.
     
  14. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    You're welcome.
    Don't forget. It's natural to want an opinion of one's own, but one has to be able to tell the difference.
    You chose the greater.
    And it was an easy choice to get right - there are few evils worse than fascist government. Not much excuse available. An almost complete lack of empathy seems to be a major factor.
    The meaning is being deliberately destroyed - for the vulnerable - by media manipulations. If it's "lost" to you, you've been manipulated. Fair warning.
    Sainthood is not involved.
    Basic decency is the central matter - empathy. When you have betrayed and injured others, cultivating empathy is one way to begin to set yourself back in order.
    You know nothing about "the Left" - less than nothing, actually, because you are committed to falsehood and fantasy. You would have to work hard to achieve neutral ignorance.
     
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  15. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    As ugly a description of the Republican voter and corporate media as one can imagine. But not farfetched.
     
  16. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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  17. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    You seem prepared to do that for me.

    I disagree.

    You seem at ease. I mean, the apparent fascism doesn't seem to have injured your politics in the least.

    I live in a liberal capital, and the politics is on fool display, in my opinion.

    I agree. Have your feelings been injured by the current president?

    Would the list of Democratic candidates be representative of the Left? There are 23, I believe, to choose from. Please, pick the one that most closely aligns with the Left? I will take the time to read their political statement.
     
  18. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Why did you erase your statement? I read it and then it disappeared.
     
  19. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    So? Republican voters have little empathy and lousy judgment - despite the advantages of a living in a democracy set up for them by liberals.
    A Ouija board could do that for you - it would be right half the time, a significant improvement.
    Just my country, region, town, neighbors, and family.
    There isn't one that "most closely aligns with the Left". That's a confusion. For starters, there's authoritarian and libertarian Left - can't align with both.
    Second, you can't read political statements or arguments. I don't mean that literally, of course, in the sense of illiteracy - I mean you can't draw meaning from such things. Meaning derives from context, and your context is a wingnut media bubble, a propaganda construction that changes from week to week.
    Of course not. For chrissake, it's got Biden in it.
    ? He's just the latest Republican President. We're used to this shit. The last one made jokes about drinking too much in the local bars from an official podium overlooking a thousand bodies drowned in a flood, handed out White House press credentials and arranged overnight White House visits for online prostitutes, watched live video feed of torture sessions for captured enemies, paraded his junk on TV in a military uniform, and got his spiritual advice from Ted Haggard. And he crashed the US economy - seriously, crashed it. It almost didn't survive.

    Took him a little over five years - the current guy is moving faster, but probably because the ground was better prepared.
    Left. Not liberal - Left. Talking about Left, you were. You specified "Left", your very own self.
    Context. Meaning derives from context. You don't have one.
    It's like empathy, that way.
     
  20. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I've been hearing this in the media and also from repub friends - and I'm not sure why that would be? I'd presume the opposite lol
     
  21. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    The Republicans tried impeaching Clinton, and they lost seats in the house after all was said and done, Clinton came out on top. He too was running the show while our economy was booming. They made a stink out of financial dealings and a blow job in the oval office. Yeah, Clinton lied about the blow job, and probably everything else, but we were all doing pretty well at the time, so nobody much cared.

    If this crapper in Iran turns into a war, there will be damage to Trump's Presidency.
     
  22. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The difference is one of reality - actual physical circumstance.
    Clinton's economy, at the time of impeachment, was actually becoming healthy from an economist's perspective - unlike the current US economy, with its increasing (not decreasing, as under Clinton) public deficit spending, degradation of infrastructure, and sequential bubbles.

    And Clinton's offenses - at least, the ones he was impeached for - were trivial and not job related. He actually was subjected to a partisan witch hunt and a circus prosecution of lies and leaks. Trump has been betraying his country and violating his oath of office for personal gain - committing treason for money, essentially - and using his office as President to do it; meanwhile, the investigation has been sober and evidence based - the circus stuff has been coming from his side.

    Now it's always possible that reality will make no difference in a US Presidential campaign - but it's not a safe bet.
     
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  23. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Trump's Presidency can hardly be "damaged".

    The crapper on the Mexican border hasn't hurt him among his supporters. The crapper in Venezuela either. The crapper in Yemen hardly made the news. The embarrassing failure in NK hasn't touched him. Neither has his dealings with Saudi Arabia. The combination scandal/joke that is his "wall" didn't sink his ship when he shut down the government to force the American taxpayer into borrowing to pay for it. Even his refusal to allow his own administration and diplomatic agencies to see records or translations of his dealings with Putin hasn't disturbed the loyalty of his admirers.

    A war in Iran won't budge the Republican voting base. They will swallow anything.

    They are, however, a minority of US eligible voters. About a third. So once again it comes down to voter suppression, gerrymandering, vote rigging, and the like. The Republicans have a huge advantage in that, but it can be overcome with sheer numbers - the numbers are there.
     

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