Empathy

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Bowser, May 24, 2019.

  1. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    The Republicans said much the same of Clinton during his Presidency. Congratulations, you just crossed party lines.
     
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  3. candy Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think that DJT's supporters love him so much as they distrust the Democrats.
     
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  5. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I think they worship him. He has a strong base. I don't see anyone attracting that much loyalty within the Democratic Party. The only thing they have that holds them together is their hatred of Trump.
     
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  7. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    We want something so that we can scream "lock 'em up, lock'em up"! You know, "empathy"....

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  8. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    And the New Deal agenda - the policies and governance of a liberal democracy, as favored by more than 2/3 of the American citizenry.
    Of course not. The Democratic Party largely comprises adults who wish to govern themselves. Personal loyalty like that is for organized criminal gangs.
    The Republicans said false things. I am saying true things.
    There is a difference between true claims and false claims, out in the real world. They are not interchangeable, or equivalent.

    And that difference is Republican, by and large: the Republicans inhabit a fantasy world, a world of falsehood,
    in which even obvious idiocy is believed and repeated as long as it is delivered to them by the correct sources,
    in which reversals of opinion and contradictory assertions are accepted without question, routinely.

    Quite possibly the male American Republican voter is the most childish, gullible, politically incompetent adult man on this planet. They panic, they flail and rant, they believe stuff a twelve year old could see through - and look at who they voted into the Presidency.
    They love him, just as they loved W, and Reagan.

    After the disaster (whatever it is) their handlers will rewrite all this, of course. When was the last time you heard a Republican media figure praise W as they did in 2003/2004? That's all shoved into the amnesia closet now - the entire 8 years of W is just kind of skipped over, in Republican rhetoric. So will Trump be. Ten years from now they will be pretending what we all have seen these past couple of years never happened, or somehow involved "both sides" of some kind (They are already trying to sell the idea that nobody really wanted to vote for Trump, they just had no good choice).

    But there will be another W, another Reagan, another Trump, as long as there is a Republican Party as we see it now. The Republican Party is a deliberately and purposefully organized shitpile of bigots, fundies, and imbeciles - it didn't get that way suddenly in the summer of 2016, and it won't magically become something else in 2020, or 2024, or any time in the near future.
     
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  9. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Yep, the deplorables.
     
  10. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    It’s not surprising that a Republican would hate Hillary, but it is surprising that many of them love Trump. What do they love?
     
  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    his lack of political correctness by reinforcing old school yard stereo types
    punching people
    mocking
    etc etc
    they feel liberated from their own self-imposed conservatism by proxy
    he is the American poster child of anti-political correctness
     
  12. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Yea, that makes sense. Many voters identify with a bully, it would seem.
     
  13. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Simple, ugly, fact.
    Why pretend otherwise?
    It's not like you guys have any pretensions to being decent human beings, after all. You're proud of your behavior.
    So own it.
    Careful. "Political correctness" is one of their effective propaganda memes - it's how they project their censorship and control of speech unto other people.

    Look at the amount of effort and attention the Republican media wing puts into vocabulary, into mass repetition of key terms and exclusion of others, into making sure the news and other mass media speaks in certain ways and not others. Getting the terminology of public discourse "politically correct" is a major, well-financed, very important aspect of their political efforts.
     
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  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Frank Luntz is one of the brains behind "political speech"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Luntz
     
  15. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    We will be whatever you need, Ice.
     
  16. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    He's perfectly human like you and me.
     
  17. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    And what, in your opinion is "perfectly human"? Sounds to me you have a very low opinion of what it is to be human.
     
  18. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I think it's you who has a low opinion of what it is to be human

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  19. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    OH, yes, Trump is a shining example of humanity.
     
  20. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, he is. So are you. Now, if we could only find that perfect human...
     
  21. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    Mary Poppins. ''Practically perfect in every way''.
     
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  22. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    ...and Hillary Clinton?

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  23. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I suppose so, if I must make an exception.
     
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