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  1. river

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    • This member has been excluded from our Science sections. Duplicating a thread to avoid that exclusion is interference with moderation and a breach of site rules.

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    All physical objects , 3D dimensional objects will naturally have mathematical value . Because they exist . They have 3D geometry . Duration will happen whether any measurement is placed on it or not .
     
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  3. arfa brane call me arf Valued Senior Member

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    Which is it? "Duration has no numbers", or "Duration has a natural mathematical order"?

    Both can't be true.
     
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    Duration has numbers , Duration can have a natural mathematical order .

    Duration though is about the objects themselves . Which in the end dictate both the numbers and any order , mathematically .
     
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  7. arfa brane call me arf Valued Senior Member

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    Numbers have a natural mathematical order.

    Defining duration with numbers is fine, but saying duration "has" numbers, is not. Where does it get them from?
     
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    From the objects existence and their movements .
     
  9. arfa brane call me arf Valued Senior Member

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    Well, ok. Things that exist and are physical objects can be counted, so numbers exist if countable objects exist. Right.
    But they don't have to be moving. How does a duration move, even though you can count one or more of them?
     
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    They do . Duration is about movement because of the Natural properties of the objects . No matter the size of the group .
     
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    Sure .

    And therefore what ......
     
  12. arfa brane call me arf Valued Senior Member

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    What if the objects are marks on a ruler? By definition they don't move, relative to each other. Fixed objects that don't move are easier to deal with, for us humans. I guess the universe doesn't care though.
     
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    They are still objects . Fixed objects that don't move are still objects . Duration is not a fixed quality of movement .

    The Universe is both of Life and the periodic table .
     
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