How do you deal with people who don't treat you fairly?

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  1. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    I’d prefer the Gandhi route

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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    everyone shows bias
    just make sure your bias shows a profit
     
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    everyone seeks hills
    that is part of the entropic nature of human existence
    domestic abusers
    child abusers
    bullys & narcissists exploit this specific process to control their victims(child sexual victims adult sexual victims, domestic slaves and other victims)

    the reason it works so well is because it relys on a natural human condition

    it is a core structure of child grooming
    adults use it on other adults as a normal method of bullying and exploitation

    if you keep encountering sexism and abuse & exploitation
    you must be the one with the problem...

    the fact is if you can identify the core behaviour model, then you can identify the drivers behind it.

    i get a distinct feeling you are finding yourself being confronted by a culture that is a closet misogynist apologist natured culture of bias(most common western world usa conservative centric business cultures)
     
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  7. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    You would be correct with your “distinct feeling.” Although, some of the men I work with aren’t closeted misogynists. Lol They are proud of it.
     
  8. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    I'm passive to them when I sense their pain.
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    eww
    such people are quiet sadistic underneath
    as im sure you have found out.

    i dont work for ass holes
    i simply wont, found out the hard way years ago
    its my number 1 rule

    so im getting the impression a certain someone is trying to push you to exceed your expectations.
    when in reality your expectations are them not being selfish sexist assholes all the time
    note
    Conscious & Subconscious & female complicity

    such pigs will try and get you to game your own values as they exploit you like a lesser intellectual creature.
    been there lived it seen it danced around it

    they attempt to invade your personal life in the work place to assert their ideologies into your personal value systems and then expect you to spout that in the work place as something normal and cultural
    its a child exploitation mentality and i find it very distasteful

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  10. TheFrogger Valued Senior Member

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    Why not change the expectations that they dance around, RainbowSingularity.

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  11. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    Well ,people like Colin Wilson argued that you should not allow the perceived inflictor of the injustice (as perceived by him) to further damage him by holding onto the hatred.

    I didn't share his analysis but I certainly felt the power of his resolution(found it hard to understand it actually)

    Mandela took a similar line though and found few to criticise him for it.

    I suppose I would say it is a mistake to allow yourself to be shaped by the perceived injustice any longer or more deeply than absolutely necessary. You have your own life to live and path to follow and the person who caused you the harm does not have your permission to outstay their welcome/intrusion in your life.

    + https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabrizio_Quattrocchi
     
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  12. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    This is literally perfect advice, and resonates so much with me right now. Thanks

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  13. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    It's possible to be too sensitive for the world/society in which we live. If one work environment is too offensive to work in, it may just be that work environment.

    If every work environment feels the same, it may be that one is just too sensitive for the current society. It's probably best to adapt in that case. It is possible to give too much power over ourselves to others. It's best not to do that. We largely control our own world.
     
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  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    Alexander the great
    Genghis khan
    Hitler
    Stalin
    Donald Trump
    how many american people (on both dems & repubes laughed and said he would never get in)

    look at lil un sun moon bun (his rapper name) whats his face
    nukes when the world said no you wont
    cruise missiles when the world said no you wont
    now global subway sandwiches shop he can move anywhere in the world to sell sausage

    (many more names to chose from of those who really knew how to control their own world)

    what are the american people saying will never happen currently ?
    climate change
    ut oh !
     
  15. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    So true. I don’t need to give power over to anyone and if I do, then that’s my fault.
     
  16. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    yes and no

    so if someone convinces you to hand over some money or personal details...
    its your fault ?
    and regardless of what they do with it, THAT too is your fault ?

    are you playing the pyramid apologists power game of covert victim shaming by assigning power & authority has no accountability for the position of privilege and extra money ?

    the game is "pretend there is no such concept of power system"
    so all the bigots and misogynists and homophobes and sexist pigs and religo nutters can get away with what ever they like and call it "team culture"

    when your opening the gate, what are you letting in ?
    rabid wolf ?
    alpha wolf ?
    disease ridden sheep into the flock ?
     
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    If one is unhappy today in their personal life because Trump is President then one is probably giving Trump too much power. To be clear, it would be good if Trump was out of office.

    If you are unhappy today because of Trump, you have control over that. For the most part, the government doesn't really impact your personal life on a day to day basis.

    If you choose to be unhappy with the world everyday, that's a personal choice.
     
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  19. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    unless your a politician, lobbyist or political reporter... or an oil company, or work for an oil company, or manufacture plastic products, or import or buy plastic products, or a share broker, ...
    or if you work on wall st

    who is president should not impinge on your sex life if you are living in a secular modern culture

    you knew it was always about the sex didnt you.

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    ooops almost forgot one
    or if you work for the government, like those 800,000 Federal employees who were sent home with no wages for a few weeks so their kids had no food and had to cancel birthday partys and such like.

    fyi
    800,000 incomes =
    roughly 600,000 familys =
    2 children per family
    = 1.2 million children with no income while rich ass holes argued over their petty bullshit
    thats pretty fucked up really
    for a "modern civilized secular leader of the free world"
     
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  21. Truck Captain Stumpy The Right Honourable Reverend Truck Captain Valued Senior Member

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    this entirely depends on the situation and person, but I like this answer by Seattle
    I have thick skin because of my work, but there are topics that can make me irritable, like when someone tries to redefine reality with a personal delusional belief directly contrary to the explicitly stated facts that are verifiable and validated.


    without more information, we could be giving you really bad advice. However, having said that, I liked what DaveC426913 said in reply

    something to consider: does your place of work offer courses in troubleshooting? (not IT related - like in manufacturing or quality management)
    is the problem you see a result of other problems (symptom) or is it the core problem?
    Sometimes answering these questions tells you a lot about how to proceed. Treating the symptom only allows the problem to manifest in other ways

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    HOLY CRAP! it's a lot cheaper here... but you have to pay travel expenses. LOL
     
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  22. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    CALL THE POLICE.
     
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  23. Stoniphi obscurely fossiliferous Valued Senior Member

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    In work, I am skilled in areas that very few others practice. If a client cannot keep their agreement, I charge them for it. If they don't pay, I direct them to look elsewhere.

    Earlier in my life I was a doormat and had many painful relationships. After therapy and years of studying relationships I chose to judge people for what they say and do. I began to avoid those who brought me pain. My choice of attachments since those days has given me much pleasure and joy.

    It is a task for me, but I try very hard to let go of things like anger and desire for revenge. I recognize that anger is hurt or the fear that I might get hurt. Once I recognize that hurt, there is no need for the anger any more as it has done its job and I can let it go.

    Further, I do not want to feel guilty. If I deliberately harm someone who is not in the process of trying to hurt me (self defense is a fundamental right), then I will know I am doing so and will subsequently feel guilty. I already have enough pain, no need to look for more.
     
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