In defence of space aliens

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by Magical Realist, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. river

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    Read books on the subject , books gives much more details .
     
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  3. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Like Cinderella? Goldilocks?
    We have no solid extraordinary evidence of any Alien visiting Earth, let alone any Alien life existing period.
     
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  5. river

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    No .

    Yes we do .

    Just the facts .
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    You have no facts river, nor any convincing evidence, to prove the existence of any extraterrestrial life.
     
  8. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    It's a pity none of them ever communicated anything that we hadn't already worked out for ourselves, then.

    You guys all make up your own version of the story. You don't like the luvvy duvvy "be nice to each other" messages that other UFO enthusiasts tell us the aliens want to communicate to human beings, so you just throw that part out of your own preferred narrative - explain it away.

    What you need to realise is that your version of the fantasy is not in any respect superior to the luvvy duvvy "protect the planet and don't use the nukes!" version of what the aliens supposedly want.
     
  9. Q-reeus Valued Senior Member

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    Making such statements with inferences quite disconnected from my consistent best-guess appraisal re 'alien' agenda in e.g. #4228, #4230, is your choice.
    Got a COVID high fever perhaps? Try reading again what you quoted there of me, and then what you responded with. Where is the (false) contrast you seem to find? An even more glaring example of disconnected thinking.
    James R comes out of his crypt again, itching to snipe aimlessly days after anything pertinent has been aired and by now become stale. So predictable.
    My advice - when the next strong urge to snipe comes, lay down till it passes. It will be less embarrassing for you.
     
  10. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    That's a nasty thing to say.
     
  11. Q-reeus Valued Senior Member

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    That's a very subjective comment. And btw James R used the same quite mild dig against me earlier this thread, but without good reason. You didn't have anything to say then as I recall. Particularly bored?
     
  12. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Tell me then.
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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  14. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    And then turning on its little snaily hovering thrusters?
     
  16. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Since no movement unable to comment

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  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    It's ... a video...

    OK - spoiler alert: it's on a skylight.
     
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  18. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry to long in quarantine in Bali hotel room

    Not been tested for virus but not have symptoms

    Only here because no flights to Darwin

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  19. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Harkening back to this ol' chestnut:

    There was much defense of the term "cannot be identified" - as in: once classed as a UAP, it was never going to be subsequently identified as identified.


    Here is a textbook counterexample:

    https://arstechnica.com/science/201...-chilean-officials-cant-explain-ufo-sighting/
    (skip ahead to 8:20)

    "The significance of this sighting is that it was
    - made by credible Navy officers,
    - lasted nearly 10 minutes,
    - involved observation in both the visible and infrared portions of the spectrum.
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    "The Committee for the Study of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena, comprised of leading scientists, analysts, and aviation technicians, after an extensive study of the case, determined that it was a UAP, or Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon,"

    i.e officially classified and released as a UAP.


    But wait -

    "...subsequent 3D analysis revealed that IB6830 (a four engined A340) is actually a perfect match. IB6830 left earlier, and was climbing out more to the south, nearer to the helicopter. At the time this was spotted (the very first sighting on the video, at 13:52:34) IB6830 was actually around 35 miles away. However it would very quickly get further away. By 13:57 IB6830 would be 65 miles away. This explains why it was not seen on radar (IB6830 was on radar, just not where they thought it was)"

    https://www.metabunk.org/threads/ex...deo-aerodynamic-contrails-flight-ib6830.8306/


    Several important lessons to be learned here:

    1. Pilots - even credible Navy Officers - report things as unidentified, even when they are simply not immediately identifiable.
    2. Independent confirmation, such as from airport radar, can get it wrong.
    3. Even officially classified UAPs get identified and debunked.
     
  21. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    supposed = unknown

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  22. Kavik Kang Banned Banned

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    "Turn The Chessboard Around"

    You are not admitting that aliens are visiting the Earth, you are yourself trying to understand from their perspective assuming they are there. It helps a lot.

    Also, our own sci-fi entertainment like Star Trek and Star Wars have most people thinking in terms of us being "just a few hundred years behind them". 10,000,000 years is almost a "wink of an eye" to the galaxy. What it they are 10,000,000 years ahead of us... not just a few hundred. If they were, and we got our hands on their stuff... how long do you think we could keep it? No matter where we put it. If Greneda got their hands on B2 Spirit stealth bomber, how long do you think that they could keep it? The presumed aliens wouldn't want us to have it, right?

    The "Tic-Tacs" in the Nimitz incident... with the chessboard turned around, do they appear to be the type of craft that are manned or unmanned? That should be an easy one.

    If these aliens are this advanced, and don't want us to have their stuff... the HUGE gaping hole in the Roswell story everyone misses... Why would they leave a "crashed ship" lying in Mac Brazel's field for three days?

    The Teflon Believer
     
  23. Kavik Kang Banned Banned

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    "Natural Born OPFOR"
     

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