Is this a misconception about Hitler?

Discussion in 'History' started by Norsefire, Jul 15, 2009.

  1. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

    The misconception being that Hitler was a white supremacist. It's important to remember that Hitler was a German Aryan supremacist, not a white supremacist. I read that he expressed no interest whatsoever in the Nazi movements of the US during his reign; neither did he express interest in conquering the US.

    Hitler cared for a very specific group of people: Germany Aryans (not the Aryans as in, the ancient South Asian civilization; I mean his "Aryans")

    Hitler's "superior race" was not the white race, it was the Aryan race. So am I right? Is that a misconception about Hitler? And does that not render the American Nazi movements irrelevant and pointless?
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  3. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

    But according to the prevelent supremacist theory, there was a gradation of perfection from white at the top on down to black at the bottom.
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  5. River Ape Valued Senior Member

    Yes, I think the point you make is a fair one, Norsefire.

    My own outlook is very similar to that of Hitler, save that I place the Anglo-Welsh at the top of the tree. Most Jews have a similar outlook, save that they place Jews at the top. Most Chinese have a similar outlook, save that they place the Chinese at the top. Many Mexicans rejoice at being members of La Raza. Hitler was really very conventional, save that he got a bit too deep into theory. (Such theorising may have been the genetic effect of some Jewish ancestry.)

    Only recently have some diseased individuals begun to wish the demise of their own race through uncontrolled immigation and miscegenation. Before an era in which people were mentally doctored through advanced forms of education, loyalty to ones own tribe was the healthy norm. From an evolutionary perspective, being a nigger lover is just another way of being queer.

    The whole use of the word "Nazi" outside the context of Germany is really not very helpful. It is most often used as a term of abuse -- causing some of those suffering such abuse to react kindly to the word and adopt it. "Fascist" is applied to people whose views bear even less relation to the socialist corporatist ideals of Mussolini.
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  7. Anti-Flag Pun intended Registered Senior Member

    I think you've glossed over the fact that one trait of the perfect Aryan race was considered to be white skin.
  8. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

    Still sounds like white supermacy to me. Just nitpicking.
  9. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

    No I think its irrelevant that Hitler was mostly concerned about Germany. I mean he was concerned enough about Germany to want to conquer neighboring countries right? As far as the modern supremacists in the U.S and elsewhere they simply want the same construct Hitler espoused; a race based society where whites are on top and others are the service of whites on top. Although many do not seem to have an interest in non-white nations they tend to see themselves as whites of European descent and find kinship with other European nations and peoples. If you check out ********** you will see that membership is American and European and they describe themselves not as nationalists but white nationalists.
  10. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

    My point is, Hitler did not care necessarily whether you were white or not, but rather that you were an Aryan. Even non Aryan whites were viewed as undesirables.
  11. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

    Hitler considered East Europeans (whites) slaves, so there you go....
  12. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

    yes but eastern europeans for the most part slavs tend to be darker in color than people to the west
  13. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

    Darker than Spanish? Eastern Europeans were not "dark". He fucking hated Slavs.
  14. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member


    From an evolutionary perspective, whatever evolves is evolution.
    Traits which some subjectively see as aiding survival of a tribe may be what leads to humans exterminating themselves. Then insects will probably become the dominant species & may evolve into a "higher" lifeform. That would all be a natural part of evolution.
    Evolution is not good or bad or right or wrong.
  15. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

    really? white Russians or Polish people are just as white as the Irish.

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    You can only say that about the people of the Mediterran...
  16. roscogre Registered Senior Member


    River ape is right on.
    Sub Saharan Africans did not have the wheel or written language when Germans had rockets.
    Have you read "Hitler's Table Talk"?
    It provides many insights into Hitler's mind.
    I am still trying to find a free copy of Hitler's second,unpublished book.
  17. Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

    Eastern europeans are the lightest skinned people in the world, westerners have a beigey/pinkish hue, eastern europeans are almost transluscent with a greyish tint. Hitler was correct to separate them from "white people", you need to look past the skin and into their eyes, their cold unfeeling black eyes, they are basically arctic land sharks in what superficially resembles a white human being's body.

    That's an interesting notion. Only an oblivious semi-jew could be evil enough to actually set about erradicating jews after noticing how evil they are? Makes sense.
  18. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

    You place the Welsh at the peak of human evolution?
    Are you being humorous?
  19. Barbie Banned Banned

    Definitely. There's an eerie presence to eastern europeans which is largely absent in other whites, which may explain Hitler's disdain for them. I remember when I was in Lithuania and I took a picture of myself with a few locals, to show friends and family back home, and the camera was a typical digital Kodak, taken outside of a restaurant. The picture showed me in full color - as it should have - but all the Lithuanians present within the picture were inexplicably in black and white, and their eyes were beady - so horribly beady. Some of the Lithuanians in the picture even had stink waves emanating from them, luckily which my camera was able to capture. When I asked the locals in the picture why they had no colour and had stink waves they said, "what? it's probably just the lighting ... hey, drink this [cheap lithuanian moonshine that was in an old picke jar]". I remember the moonshine tasting remarkably similar to dish detergent, and I woke up fifty metres from where I took the picture unable to see from my left eye, with my camera by my side which somebody had deleted the picture in question from. So sadly I can't scan the photo, it would have been breakthrough evidence in anthropolgy and such.

    I didn't quite understand Lithuania, I was there in the summer and my thermometer read twenty celsius, people were in t-shirts and stuff, but I was terribly cold and could see my breath. It was probably due to the icy soullesness radiated by the locals. When I passed the artificial western/eastern european border on my way to Italy, I felt warmer, happier, found money on the ground, etc. My friends never did believe my story about Lithuania, countering "who would go to Lithuania in the summer unless they were being shipped to a secret prison against their will?"

    Just goes to show you that you can't lump europeans as all being one kind of white.
  20. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member


    You are hopefully joking.
    If so, it's best to wait for a few posts, so that people can gauge you.
    Otherwise this kind of post will get you banned.

    If you are joking, love it.
    If you are not joking, you are a total loony.
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2009
  21. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

    I call bullshit.
    First in.

    I bet you can't show us those photos?
    I bet if actually do have them you wouldn't submit the originals and negatives for analysis if whatever you post does somehow "inexplicably"* show the Lithuanians in B&W.

    * I humbly** suggest that IF you post the relevant photos and they DO show that then the word "inexplicably" is more correctly spelt "Photoshop".
    ** Nah, sod it. Me, humility?: I know that'll be the case.
  22. Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

    You heard what happened, someone deleted the photos, otherwise ofcourse he would have showed them.
    It's a totally believable and obviously true story. There's a line where skepticism becomes unreasonable and absurd, you're crossing it.
  23. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

    Hitler had very dark eyes.
    They were unfathomable.

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