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  1. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Supposedly, some of my relatives fled Russia because they were wanted for armed robbery. Armed robbery is kinda like royalty, isn't it?
     
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  3. Truck Captain Stumpy The Right Honourable Reverend Truck Captain Valued Senior Member

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    according to the wife:
    if you're located near a Mormon church, check to see if they have a Genealogy group. They'll usually have times where you can visit and use their computers and certain ancestry sites if they're paid.
    Family Search is free - https://www.familysearch.org/search/
     
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  5. Truck Captain Stumpy The Right Honourable Reverend Truck Captain Valued Senior Member

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    just to let you know, the only thing they can give you with any real certainty is what continent your heritage is mostly from, and even that is dependent on what has already been collected in the databanks, which is limited, to be honest. (though greater now than 5 or 10 years ago)

    The wife has had her maternal haplotype examined with my family tree and it only supported what she already knew about her heritage. It indicated she was more Scot and Irish than Germanic as well, which surprised her, but had very little to say about her Native American heritage.
    this really depends on some information, such as: what do you already know? is your family actually [x] or was their name changed?
    (also, it only explores a small part of your family - only those related to the name)
    it won't always work and there are some big scams out there too, so be wary.
    For example: I was told that my last name places me firmly as some Polish Feudal lord blah blah blah ... I know it's crap because my family name comes from Hungary. My grandfather, who has a birth certificate from both Hungary and Eerie, Pennsylvania, (birth en route) knew that the family name was changed at Ellis Island (circa 1908) to be more American. My Great Grandfather and his brother took a castle ruin near where they lived, assumed the name and altered the spelling (and pronunciation) when they landed at Ellis Island. I know that any person in the US who carries that name is either related or in the witness protection program.
    I'll do it. I'm already in so many databases all over the planet I might as well get something out of it.
     
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  7. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I know the most about my mother's side of the family. Someone in the family had a small book published with that side researched. They came from Ireland in the late 1700's. They came to N.C. and most/all were farmers and therefore it wasn't too hard to trace them back using land records.

    My father's side of the family were from either Scotland or Ireland.
     
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  8. Truck Captain Stumpy The Right Honourable Reverend Truck Captain Valued Senior Member

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    My wife has purchased a few of those type books.
    Where in Ireland did your family come from? Wife's family came from County Londonderry, Antrim and Tyrone. We visited the Antrim coast and absolutely fell in love with it... plus, we had a great time with the locals. The sense of humour was incredible and though not fully representative, this book kinda gives a glimpse of it: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23316.Round_Ireland_with_a_Fridge


    I think you'll enjoy it - it's absolutely hilarious, IMHO!
     
  9. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    That was less clear. A relative published the book after doing the research. It's clear from U.S. land records from the late 1700's on. The part of Ireland is less clear as there were several similar names involved. County Cork was the most likely as I recall.
     
  10. Truck Captain Stumpy The Right Honourable Reverend Truck Captain Valued Senior Member

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    Huh! I'll ask the wife if she used anything other than Ancestry.com when I get a chance.
    Of course, her line has a shitload of bluebloods in it so it may well just be the difference between the availability of information. I'll check ...
     
  11. Baldeee Valued Senior Member

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    The only thing I really know of my direct ancestors is that none of them were childless.

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  12. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    So not adopted?

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  13. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Somebody somewhere has to have those babies. They would be your ancestors, whether biological or not.

    (One of my cousins didn't find out he was adopted until his parents died; he was in his forties. I think it would be interesting to find out you had a whole other family. In case you're reading this, SideshowKevin, you're still one of us. You'll always be one of us, one of us, one of us, one of us, one of us....)
     
  14. Janus58 Valued Senior Member

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    My older brother is adopted. I'm not exactly sure when my parents told him, but I know that it had to be sometime before he turned 16. That's when my sister and I found out. He is 8 yrs older than I am and when I was about 8, my dad let it slip out during a conversation with a friend, while my sister and I were in the room. Mom was upset with him, but he said that we were going to have to find out eventually anyway.
    I do remember later Mom saying that when he became an adult she offered to give him what information she had on his birth parents. He told her that he didn't need it and that as far as he was concerned, Mom and Dad were his parents.
     
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  15. mmatt9876 Registered Senior Member

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    That is cool! My family is diverse too.

    I have some Irish ancestry myself. I am not sure of any royal connections yet. I am also unsure of any English, Welsh, or Scottish ancestry for sure yet.

    Thanks!
     
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  16. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Good correct point and they certainly would be biological related

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  17. mmatt9876 Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks! I have a library and a few churches in my town. Maybe I could see if they have genealogy groups there.
     
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  18. Truck Captain Stumpy The Right Honourable Reverend Truck Captain Valued Senior Member

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    you're welcome.
    Also, check out Newspapers.com and Family Search. (linked in the names)
    The wife says those are her primary sources other than the Mormon link (and the Church when she can get over that way).

    If your town doesn't have a Mormon church, check to see if there is anything close at all. If they're running a genealogy group they'll have people who can help and they're some of the nicest people in those groups. I used to get bored hanging around so they would make me cookies and let me play on the computers.

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    Sorry if it takes a while to get information from the wife. Sometimes our schedules just don't match up well.
     
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  19. mmatt9876 Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks for the info! I am not sure if there is a Mormon church in my town but I know there is a Catholic church and I believe a few Protestant churches in my town. I would not be surprised if at least one church has a genealogy group.
     
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  20. Janus58 Valued Senior Member

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    I just recently found a whole bunch of information on a part of my family tree. It happened when I was trying to find a resource that I had used before. The first time it just consisted of what appeared to be a copy of one page of a document pertaining to one particular family name in my tree. While it was helpful at the time, I couldn't help but wish that there was more.
    I found the link, and when I opened it got a surprise, my wish had been fulfilled. It had been expanded to not only include the whole document, but was also included links to other family names which were also a part of my family tree.
    There was a lot of new information. For example, this entry for my 6th great-grandfather (mother's side):

    Gustaf Adolf (overview staff 4), born 1681-04-22 at Nyen. Volunteer at HR Horn's infantry regiment 1697. Corporal at HR Horn's infantry regiment 1698. Rustmaster 1698. Driver 1699. Fennrik at Vellingk's Ingermanland infantry regiment 1700-07-11. Confirmed proxy 1700-12-06. Lieutenant at Vellingk's Ingermanland infantry regiment 1705-02-27. Equestrian at Turku County's double cavalry regiment 1706-08-20. Farewell 1713-08-01. Equestrian at Turku and Pori County Cavalry Regiment 1717-02-25. Captain of Nyland's infantry regiments 1721-10-31. Major's character 1728-08-20 with rank from 1722-06-26. Lieutenant Colonel's resignation 1734-12-18. Died 1742-09-24 on the Åland Sea during the escape from the Russians and buried in Jomala church in Åland. He proved all the campaigns in which his regiment participated, both east and towards Norway. Married 1st with Christina Enberg, daughter of Captain Salomon Enberg and Christina Sahlo. Married 2nd with Ebba Elisabet Gripenberg in her 2nd marriage (married 1st probably in 1714 to Deputy Lawyer Per Patrik de Laval, no. 335, in his 2nd marriage, born 1671, died 1716), born 1688-07 -18 died 1729-05-23, daughter of Captain Jakob Gripenberg , and Sofia Maria von Hirscheit . Married 3rd: 1730 with Ebba Vellingk in her 3rd marriage (married 1st: 1708-12-14 Laxpojo Married 2nd: 1718 to the captain of the Nyland Infantry Regiment. Adolf Johan Sahlo, born 1690 in Karelia died 1728-04-17 and buried 1728-05-11 in Vichtis parish), born 1687-04-12 at Laxpojo, died 1755-10-13, daughter of the horseman at Tavastehus and Nyland's cavalry regiment Otto Johan Vellingk, to Laxpojo (of the same family as the free-spirited family Vellingk ), and Catharina von Cappel.
    Children:

    • 2. Carl Reinhold, naturalized von Konow, born 1723, died 1797. See Tab. 2nd
    • 2. Johan Gustaf, naturalized von Konow, born 1724, died 1797. See Tab. 5th
    • 2. Gregori, naturalized von Konow, born 1729, died 1809. See Tab. 12th
    The second wife listed, would have been my 6th great-grandmother, and the first born my 5th great-grandfather. Her maiden name was one of the families that were linked to and her mother's maiden name was another.

    Following the links also led me to learn that one of my 8th great-grandfathers was a musketeer in the Life Guard for Queen Christina of Sweden.

    Other than the extra information, it also provided independent confirmation that I had this part of the tree correct.( not always a sure thing when you use sites like Ancestry.com. So many times you are basing your information on someone else's tree, who got theirs' from someone else, who could have, in turn, made a mistake. I know, because I have found stuff in other people's trees pertaining to my family that I know for a fact is wrong.)* The missing part of the first document took the lineage all the way down to match up with records that came directly from the parish where my grandmother was born.

    *Prime example. One Hint from Ancestry.com led me to a page for grave sites where they had a photo of a grave stone with three names on it. The site listed them as Father, Mother and Son. They were in fact two brother's and a sister of my dad, who had all died young and within a short time of each other.
     
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    Neat Janus58, a 4th rater ship that could outdo a 3rd rater in firepower, it must have been something like a commando carrier, I'm impressed.

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    I have a few Prussians in my lineage on my fathers maternal grandmother's German side (Dittman) who came out to Australia in the 1880/90's. 'Baron Holz von der Haider?' and his wife Sophia Maria Dorothea Regina and she ran the farm, 'Sophies Farm', at Paddys Island in Bundaberg QLD, after her husband died.

    Apparently she entertained 'King Billy' and the Brisbane aboriginal tribe when they were traveling to Mount Perry/Ban Ban springs, near Gayndah, for a meeting with the Waka Waka people after the great floods of the time.

    Another one of Sophie's daughter's Louisa married another German immigrant, Harry Engel, in 1900.

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  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Great great grandparents include:

    Rosina Rosario, apparently a notable silkworm picker in southern Italy
    Franz Joseph Novak, a glazier in Vienna. He made a few big stained glass windows for big cathedrals, and was awarded the title "von" by the Austrian emperor.
    Michael McKeever, noted sheepherder in Ireland. So many sheep that, apparently, he was a good "catch" for local women.
    Mary O'Brien, a potato farmer who almost died during the potato famine.

    My maternal grandparents came to the US as refugees from the fallout of the potato famine, although they made it through the worst part of it. My grandfather showed up with no money and worked for years to send money back to get my grandmother on the boat. Once she got here, he passed the civil service exam and drove Manhattan streetcars for years; my grandmother worked as a chef for the Chemical Bank cafeteria, at a building that I worked at decades later as an intern.
     
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  23. Janus58 Valued Senior Member

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    No Barons, counts etc, that I know of.
    There is one Colonel who was killed at the "Battle of Napue" (Or Battle of Storkro). He gets a brief mention in the Wiki page on the battle as being charge of one of the brigades.
    Another ancestor is mentioned as being heir to Hirvisaari Island, which is this bit of land now part of St. Petersburg.

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    I also found a story about an Nth great-grandmother, who's death was attributed be caused by magic done by a maid. The maid was put on trial for the deed.
    The oldest likeness I could find of anyone so far is this portrait of a 5th great-grandfather.

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