The 4th Spatial dimension is memory.

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  1. HawkI Registered Senior Member

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    A Time Traveler forgets where he left his car keys, luckily the Universe remembers, so he hops into his Time Machine then goes back 5 minutes.
     
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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Someone who actually studied time, George Carlin.
     
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  5. nebel

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    Even before the brain commits information about the present to retention, it is the inertia of these electro chemical processes that allows a stable picture of reality, because
    In our movement through time, we never stop, the now is of zero length, duration. so. nit thinking of a 4st spatial dimension, but the first, time.
     
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  7. river

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    How does this make sense to you nebel ?
     
  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    IMO, that is not correct.

    It has been proven that the brain must have prior knowledge of a pattern before it can compare it to its memory and recognized that pattern as familiar and identifiable.

    There was an experiment of kittens locked in a room with only vertical planes and columns. After a month of learning to navigate all the vertical surfaces, the kittens were placed in a room with both horizontal and vertical planes. The kittens easily avoided the vertical objects but constantly ran into the horizontal planes as if they were invisible and only after a few painful experiences did their brain begin to recognize the horizontal planes and they were able navigate both vertical and horizontal obstacles. At first the horizontal planes simply failed to register as obstacles.

    The brain does not see anything! It processes sensory information. If it is not familiar with the sensory information the brain does not recognize it as a pattern, it has nothing in memory to compare it to.

    Why is it that the visual spectrum for humans is limited to that small little range of wavelengths. We can't even see infra-red, in spite of the fact that we can feel its effects on our skin. Our brain is unable to process information in that wave-length. It's that simple. Many insects can see ultra-violet, it helps them locate specific type of nectar producing flowers. Snakes can see infra-red produced by body heat. It helps them in locating prey.

    Can bees see infrared or ultra-violet?

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    Anil Seth explains this phenomenon and illustrates this with an irrefutable example of the chess board. You know the two squares A and B are the same shade of gray, but your brain refuses to see it that way, because it believes that square B is in the shadow and will make a best guess that B is lighter than A.

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    Even if you know the difference, it is impossible for the brain to make that adjustment. This is indeed most remarkable, but it demonstrates the perceptual limitations of the brain.

    OTOH, Seth also demonstrates the remarkable adaptability of the brain to separate out speech from noise, once it is exposed to the speech and can compare the noise with memory and actually hear the words which were at first just noisy sounds.

    IMO, this simple demonstration of the brain's abilities and limitations in processing both visual and auditory sensory information is truly profound.
     
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  9. nebel

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    of course they are, and because they have duration, we or the cats in labs perceive existence. if we lived only in the now, we would not exixt.
     
  10. nebel

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    in our movement through time, we never stop, the now is of zero length, duration. so. nit thinking of a 4st spatial dimension, but the first, time.
    I exist for 90 years, and really was always in the now, on the move, in zero duration in time. The past time is gone, just like nothing. Even as i still remember the zeppelin flying over head ca. 1933, I have no sense of accumulated "time", feeling aged, am just now getting ready to take on another day's activity.
    so, I moved through time, and left artifact behind that drift through time still, but my existence is entirely dependent on that movement ahead of me, through that first dimension , that preceded you and me, and goes on with or without us into the unlimited "future" of timespace, energytime.
    be thankful that your electro-chemical processes take time, because that is the duration, stretch of the first dimension you live in, experience.
    thankful too. ALMA, nursing mother.
     
  11. river

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    Three dimensional duration is memory .

    Memory does not need time to differentiate movements of movements . The movements themselves differentiate each other . By their very actions themselves .

    If we disinclude time in memories the seperation of movements would still be obvious . They wouldn't jumble together because time was absent .
     

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