The first experimental measurement of God; to a 2-decimal point accuracy

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  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Physically yes.

    But sentience is not a physical thing. Sentience does not answer to Newton's Laws. When the sentient organism dies its physical parts are redistributed but its sentience just disappears, it has no durable properties.

    Let's put it this way. Sentience does not occupy space. It is an abstract cognitive property.
    That is why the phenomenon of consciousness is so hard to pin down.

    Consciousness and sentience are emergent properties and when the causal physical patterns disintegrate the emergent property ceases to emerge.......

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    Because Sentience is life . Life is beyond Newton's Laws .


    Durable properties defined as ... your definition Write4U ...
     
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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    By your own words......"It's a durable physical world". A rock has no thoughts.

    Brains generate thoughts, but they are not physically measurable, they are a fleeting emergent internal phenomena of biological organisms.

    If I flick a light switch, light is generated by the electrical current. When I switch the current off, the light disappears. It just does no longer exist. Nothingness.

    And thoughts are somewhat similar, turn the brain off and thoughts just disappear. Poof!
     
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  7. river

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    Thoughts are within and without .
     
  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Not when there is no speech. We are not talking about how thoughts are transmitted. We are talking about when thoughts are no longer transmitted. They just disappear . Nothingness.
    How does light disappear? Upon collapse of the wave function, no? Nothingness.
    Thoughts are similar except internal to neural networks. Thoughts may be the result of wave function collapse in microtubules. Once the wave function has collapsed there is no longer thought.
     
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    Perhaps , but that's not how I look towards thought .

    Thought is based on knowledge . Knowledge never ends .
     
  10. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yes it does. Only transmitted knowledge continues. Of the near infinity of thoughts harbored by all sentient things that ever lived, only that which was transmitted via speech, writing, painting, electronic storage remains. The vast bulk of thoughts have just disappeared.
    Just think how many thoughts have never been transmitted? Where are they stored?

    p.s. is late here,, continue tomorrow?
     
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    Written down you mean , many . The biggest crime to knowledge was the destruction of Alexandria , Egypt .

    Electronics is as venerable as any papyrus .

    I would want both .
     
  12. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Can I ask what you really intended with that statement?

    I'm lost, that's my reaction.
     
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    From post#380

    river said:
    Does the Universe its self still exist , Galaxies , Quasars , Stars , etc. ?




    The difference between Life Energy , and Physical Energy . GALAXIES . That was my intention . They are not the same forms of energy . Yet both exist .
     
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  14. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    What is "Life Energy" worth when you have suicidal thoughts?
     
  15. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Supposedly it is that what prevents you from acting on it.
     
  16. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Looking at the dictionary definition from The Free Dictionary

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    life energy appears to be a bit of mumbo jumbo

    I cannot see any value

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  17. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    This has been debated by several philosophers.

    Élan vital
    Criticism
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Élan_vital
     
  18. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    When you said "ORGANISM" I read it as ORGASM...

    I'm out to lunch.
     
  19. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Ummmm the word you misread appears only in the screenshot of the definition I found

    No guilty of saying (tap typing on phone keyboard), sorry

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  21. river

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    Life Energy is not the same as Environmental Psychological affects of experience from the environment . Life Energy is not about experience , it is about manifestation of a living entity , in any environment that life can manifest . Where life can , life will exist , manifest .
     
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    Life energy is nothing more than a dynamic condition. The logical mathematical nature of physical interactions guide the actual self-formation and continuation of patterns as described in Chaos Theory.

    None of this requires a motivated agency. Lifeforce is a function of "the Darwinian dynamic" which was causal to the phenomenon of abiogenesis.

    Entropy and the origin of life
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_and_life#Entropy_and_the_origin_of_life
     
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    Why is there a dynamic condition in the first place that produces Life ? Mathematics . Based on the physical .
     
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