# The first experimental measurement of God; to a 2-decimal point accuracy

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1. ### Michael 345New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldlValued Senior Member

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Pigs can be as judgmental as humans

3. ### George E HammondRegistered Senior Member

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[GE Hammond MS physics]
Dear slideshowbob
– I thought I would give you a little bit more info on the question of "2-decimal point accuracy".

Psychology research is mainly concerned with measuring "correlation coefficients". For instance they might write a psychology test designed to measure the "correlation" between "child abuse" and "criminality" and they might find that the measured correlation (using written tests) is, say, – r = – 0.96
... A correlation coefficient is a number between 0 and 1, such as – .54, .71, .79, .34 ... etc. they are always measured to "2 significant figures" or as is commonly said "to 2 decimal point accuracy".
... A correlation coefficient is actually the "cosine of an angle between 2 vectors". In other words if you have 2 vectors, named "child abuse" and "criminality " and the angle between them is 15°, then the cosine (15°) = .96
IOW
we say: "child abuse" correlates .96 with "criminality".
... Okay, the scientific proof of God (SPOG) that I have discovered is based entirely on 50 years of worldwide measurmentd using Personality and IQ tests and the "measured correlation" between the different personality types discovered. It turns out they have discovered about 13-personality types, and AMAZINGLY have discovered that the angles between (inverse cosine of the correlations) describes a CUBEYES AN ACTUAL CUBE – – and no one in the entire psychology community, WORLDWIDE can figure out WHY,
... That's where yours truly physicist George Hammond entered the picture and pointed out that it is caused by the cubic cleavage of the human brain.
.... Okay, a cube has 13 symmetry axes (elementary geometry) and the 13 x 13 correlation matrix of these 13 axes ultimately yields ONE TOP, SINGLE, SUPREME EIGENVECTOR... And Hammond simply says, that if the 13 cubic symmetry axes are obviously the "12 Olympian gods" of antiquity, then the top, single, supreme eigenvector must be the "God of the Bible".
... And that my friend, is the world's first scientific proof of God !

Hope you found this informative !

George

5. ### Michael 345New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldlValued Senior Member

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The Thirteen Axes of the Cube and/or Octahedron
The cube contains three different types of symmetry axes:

three 4-fold axes, each of which passes through the centers of two opposite faces,
four 3-fold axes, each of which passes through two opposite vertices, and
six 2-fold axes, each of which passes through the midpoints of two opposite edges.

https://www.georgehart.com/virtual-...xes of the,through two opposite vertices, and

Why isn't the brain a Octahedron?

7. ### sideshowbobSorry, wrong number.Valued Senior Member

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[sideshowbob President of Bolivia]

No it isn't - no more than if I type, "I have nine consecutive Nobel Prizes in Physics." Putting it on the Internet does not mean it's true.
So it isn't "proof" at all. It's just the possibility of getting confirmation.
Or I could give them the name Donald Trump and they would confirm the degrees granted to a person by that name.
They will confirm that somebody with that name and ID received that degree. Doesn't mean you are that person.

(I'm only doing this to emphasize how sloppy your claims are. Sloppiness does not go well with science.)

I haven't claimed any. Doesn't mean I don't have any. You're being sloppy again.
Well, you haven't passed that class yet.
The legitimacy of your "peer-review" and the journal(s) its published in is far from certain.
You haven't established that eigenvectors have anything to do with "measuring" God.
I agree. The same as neither is capable of finding scientific proof of leprechauns. And by the way, "scientific proof" is another example of sloppy, unscientific language.
And it appears to have neither.
I agree. And in the same category as leprechauns.
But that isn't clear at all.
And that is not only NOT clear, it is also patently false. The God of the Bible has no precedence over a thousand other gods.
No, I mean it isn't obvious at all - nor have you established any link at all between your premises and your conclusion. You don't even have clear premises. That is classic non sequitur.
You seem to be the only one here who's confused about that.
Well, it isn't the same thing. 12345 is five significant figures; reduced to two significant figures it would be 12000. Two decimal points would be 1.23 which is three significant figures. Did you graduate from high school?
And I remind you again that I was swimming the Pacific when I accidentally discovered Mongolia.

8. ### sideshowbobSorry, wrong number.Valued Senior Member

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[sideshowbob Chancellor of Hardwood University]

It's true that sometimes two significant figures and two decimal points are the same - but not always. Using the terms interchangeably is sloppy, unworthy of even a novice scientist. You have proven that you love sloppy language - you even have the gall to defend it. And it is especially egregious when you use it to confuse laypeople.
So it's a psychological "proof" - no hard science at all.
Just out of curiosity, how do you measure the angle of a personality type?

9. ### George E HammondRegistered Senior Member

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[GE Hammond MS physics]
You're a genius Michael, but a picture is worth 1000 words – so here's a picture of the – CUBIC BRAIN – – showing its 13 symmetry axes: and in the 7 smaller diagrams

below are shown the experimentally real actual
peer-published experimentally measured partial versions of this cube.
... But let us look at some real-life diagrams – but first look at this simple diagram – –

(incidentally I drew and published this diagram in the peer reviewed literature – Hammond 1994, NIP/Elsevier)​
This is looking down at the brain from above where A. N, I. and E stand for: Anxiety, Neuroticism, Impulsivity, and Extraversion (psychological personality terms).
... Notice that these psychological dimensions all run through the FORNIX which as you can see in the cubic brain model connects all 8-LOBES of the cubic brain.
... Okay, so much for "diagram illustrations", now let's have a look at "THE REAL THING": – –

That's a mouse brain on the left and the human brain on the right. Notice something called "the medial septal nuclei" – – this is Prof. Jeffrey Gray's famous "SHS" !
(Septo- hippocampal system). Notice in the mouse that the septal area is pasted directly to the center of the fornix, and in Man is stands off from the exact center of the fornix on a short stock. Gray established unequivocally that the SHS mediates ANXIETY, and in 1994 Hammond published in the peer-reviewed literature that because of the obvious DECUSSATION in the fornix, it must also control Gray's orthogonal dimension IMPULSIVITY. Later on I used further research to establish that his SHS actually controls
ALL-13 of the cubically correlated human personality dimensions in the same manner.
... From there, it becomes obvious that these
"13 axiomatic physics based personalities" can be nothing other than the "12 Olympian gods of antiquity"
(as well as the modern day Disneyland gods – Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Porky pig, Bugs Bunny, etc.)

And so we see that the "gods" are caused by the cubic structure of the brain!

From there, it is only a short step to the actual scientific proof of God – – the research psychologists found that by factoring the 13 x 13
personality matrix, ye arrive at a SINGLE, TOP,
LONE, SUPREME eigenvector which they have dubbed the "GFP" (general factor of psychology),

And the psychologists have absolutely no idea what the GFP actually is, and are furiously debating the matter as we speak !

But it is obvious to HAMMOND, that since the lower order eigenvectors are the "gods", then the top eigenvector is obviously the God of the Bible
and sure enough, the published description of this GFP factor fits EXACTLY the description of the anthropomorphic God given in the Bible.
... Therefore, I humbly submit that we have entered upon a New World Age – in which God is now a proven scientific fact!

George

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11. ### George E HammondRegistered Senior Member

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[GE Hammond MS physics]
Okay, here you go: this is a photo of my Massachusetts Registry of motor vehicles picture ID card with the date of issue printed on it and my full name including middle initial:

And here is 15 minutes of a closed video of me presenting "the scientific proof of God" in person. Obviously the person on the ID card and the person in the video, is the same person.

THE GODS

WORLD'S 1st SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD

So anytime you want to confirm that I have and MS degree in physics from Northeastern University, all you have to do is send them the information I gave you (name, date of birth, student ID number) to:
TRANSCRIPTS@NU.EDU and they will send you a copy of my MS degree in physics.
Just like I told you in that post.

End of argument,

Now either start talking ON TOPIC SCIENCE, or take a hike!

George

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12. ### sideshowbobSorry, wrong number.Valued Senior Member

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You're funny. You really have no clue how evidence works, do you? Nobody disputes that a George E Hammond exists or that he probably got a university degree. What's in dispute is whether HE is YOU.

I could post the same evidence using my brother's ID and claim to be a pretty good chess player. But if you played chess with me, you'd see that I'm not a good chess player. Because HE is not ME.

There's a disconnect between your supposed credentials and the crap you post here. There's a gap in the logic, a non-sequitur.

I've played science with you and you don't come across as a good science player.

Now, it's possible that you have suffered some intellectual disability since that degree was granted - e.g. becoming crazy as a sack of bedbugs. In any case, you don't come across as a scientist NOW.
I have been talking on-topic science. I pointed out to you that the brain is not a cube. I pointed out to you that decimal places and significant figures are not the same thing.

And I asked you, "How do you measure the angle of a personality type?" Go ahead and answer.
I hike all the way to the library and when my two hours is up I hike all the way home. My hiking doesn't need to interfere with my posting.

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Well done

14. ### George E HammondRegistered Senior Member

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[GE Hammond MS physics]
Look, do you have a logical thinking disorder or something? Go back and read my post #628 again! I posted there 15 minutes of YouTube video of ME lecturing on my "scientific proof of God". Reciting everything about it that I have ever posted on this forum!
... All you have to do is compare the guy giving that 15 minutes of YouTube lecture on the SPOG to the picture of the guy on George E Hammond's Massachusetts identification card, and it's plain as day, THAT ITS THE SAME PERSON. Which proves "your words"

"HE IS YOU" – – to quote your own words!

You must have a thought disorder or something?

George

15. ### sideshowbobSorry, wrong number.Valued Senior Member

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THEY are the same person. But are YOU, the goober who is posting on sciforums, the same person? You can post Bill Gates' driver's license and you can post Bill Gates lecturing on YouTube and you can post all of Bill Gate's awards and accomplishments. But that doesn't mean Bill Gates is posting on sciforums.
Another example of your un-science. You edited what you claim to have quoted. Inexcusable.

I said, "What's in dispute is whether HE is YOU." I did NOT say "he is you". I said that that is in dispute. Do you not understand the difference? Or are you deliberately trying to deceive?

16. ### Michael 345New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldlValued Senior Member

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Na not smart enough

17. ### George E HammondRegistered Senior Member

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[GE Hammond MS physics]
Oh , come off it ! That ID card is currently valid, using someone else's ID in Massachusetts is good for 6 months in jail. You really think some "goober" is impersonating THE GREAT GEORGE EDWIN HAMMOND and copying and posting his stuff on Sciforums, and lying to Sciforums about his true identity ?

Get real !

PS: A fast, kid like you, who is savvy enough to notice –

"The first scientific measurement of God; to 2 decimal point accuracy"

Because it's
potentially headline news should be able to make some meaningful common sense and thought provoking scientific comments about it ! Just a suggestion !!

George

18. ### KristofferGiant HyraxValued Senior Member

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I wonder how many points the "great" George rack up on the crank scorecard.

19. ### George E HammondRegistered Senior Member

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[GE Hammond MS physics]
– Finally you managed to ask a "simple on-topic scientific question"

– Okay so here's the simple answer:

Psychologists use questionnaires to measure the key characteristics of various "personality types". There are questionnaires for – Anxiety, Impulsivity, Introversion, Extraversion, Neuroticism, Psychoticism etc.
– By giving tests to large numbers of people (up to 20,000 at a time) they can compute the "correlation coefficient" between personality types.
– A Correlation coefficient is a number between 0 and 1, and is measured to 2 decimal point accuracy, such as say .71 for example. It turns out that he correlation coefficient is the cosine of an angle, in fact the angle between the 2 vectors being measured – for instance the inverse-cosine of .71 is in fact 45° – therefore the psychologists will say that, for instance, "the Anxious personality" lies at 45° to "the introverted personality ".

Finally, let me point out that these "vectors" are actually what scientists call "eigenvectors". And let me point out here the "simple definition" of an eigenvector – an eigenvector in most cases, turns out to be a "symmetry axis of the problem".

Most commonly they arrive in the form of a "real symmetric matrix" of some sort (in this case the correlation matrix) – and a real symmetric matrix describes some kind of a "sphere or ellipsoid" – and the eigenvectors are the "symmetry axes of the ellipsoid" – there may be more than 3 of them (like a football) because the ellipsoid may be for instance a 5, 10, or even 15 dimensional. So that there are 10 or 15 "eigenvectors" to be found.

In the case of PERSONALITY, the correlation matrix has 13 eigenvectors (13 personality types) – – which Hammond points out, are clearly the "12 Olympian gods" of antiquity – – and that fact leads directly to the big daddy TOP, SINGLE eigenvector dubbed by the psychologists "The GFP" (general factor of psychology) which is still a mystery to them – but which Hammond demonstrates (in fact proves) is the
GOD OF THE BIBLE.

All for now, George

And PS slideshowbob – if you would just ask me simple scientific questions (which I suspect you are very good at asking – I think it's a genius of yours) – – we might actually get somewhere in this discussion.

20. ### Michael 345New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldlValued Senior Member

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Tried bulling you

Now going for flattering

21. ### sideshowbobSorry, wrong number.Valued Senior Member

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We've certainly seen it before. Personally, I wouldn't choose George E Hammond to emulate.

By the way, I came across an obituary for George E. Hammond. Is that you too?
I am real but I'm not the real SideshowBob.
I'll be seventy in a few months but I am young at heart. I tell people at heart I'm thirteen, my legs are a hundred and thirteen and the rest of me is somewhere in between.

(And that's a comma fault, oh Great One.)
And yet it isn't headline news. Why is that?

22. ### sideshowbobSorry, wrong number.Valued Senior Member

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Sure, any number with an absolute value less than one can be a cosine. But there doesn't seem to be any logic to the connection you're trying to make.
Wait a minute. What does measuring the characteristic of various personality types have to do with vectors? And what do correlation coefficients have to do with vectors?

What, in a personality, is being measured? What instruments are being used?
No. You're still jumping a mile. Nothing you have said in any way connects any measurements to any god.

23. ### Michael 345New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldlValued Senior Member

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Missed it by that much