The Purpose of Life

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  1. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    My defence is the same as my defence against unicorns: Show me.
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Again, that is arguing the invalidity of your opponent's claim.

    Saying 'unicorns do not exist' is its own claim - and it's indefensible - at least objectively. It's certainly a personal conviction you can hold.
     
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  5. Dicart Registered Senior Member

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    You can also do basic philosophy.
    Here an example : Pascal's wager.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_wager
     
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  7. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Which is all I need to do.
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Sure.
    I was just pointing out that this
    is an over-reach (more accurately, a conviction or belief).

    There's a qualitative difference between 'I don't grant the existence of X unless I see it' and 'There is no X.'

    'Does the creator exist' is not a binary true/false question. The third (and only objective) answer is: 'there is not enough evidence to support the claim that there is, and no way to make a case that there (conclusively) isn't'.


    What we can make use of is the Null Hypothesis: 'There's no there there - until and unless there's a there there'. (Pretty sure that's paraphrased.)
     
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  9. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Don't think you believe that, but that is reality

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  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No, he does believe it. It is logically valid, without having to be true.

    1. If there is a creator then reality (may) have a purpose.
    2. If there is no creator then reality definitely does not have a purpose.

    He acknowledges that both statements 1 and 2 are logically valid, however he believes that the premise (the if) of statement 2 is false, therefore statement 2's conclusion is false.
     
  11. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Does not the bible give life the purpose To worship god so we finish up in heaven and can worship him forever?

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  12. O. W. Grant Registered Senior Member

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    free will, creator, ...

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    basic concepts, definitions, axioms, ...
    /whatever, something like this, some order, ... /

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    Mathematicians argue and boil down to number and space.

    Philosophers argue and boil down to Language (definition (-s), ... ) and Human behaviour.

    - "grammar/math" and Eric Berne -

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    analyse/synthesise

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    free will
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_will

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    Hamlet Philosophy: what does 'Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead' say about Free Will?


    Hecatonicosachoron 7 years ago
    ...

    Bernard Brother 7 years ago
    ...


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    thing, connection
     
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  15. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Do you have any evidence for this claim?
    A day is defined as the time it takes for on revolution of the earth.
     
  16. O. W. Grant Registered Senior Member

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    Hi,

    The statement and the question were part of the debate that took place in the courtroom.
    Inherit the Wind (1960)
    Based on a real-life case in 1925, two great lawyers argue the case for and against a Tennessee science teacher accused of the crime of teaching evolution. IMDb
     
  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    And this is even vaguely related to the thread topic how exactly?
     
  18. O. W. Grant Registered Senior Member

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    Hi,

    I like reading posts on that tread. I needed that film so I posted it.

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    “Better to have, and not need, than to need, and not have.”
    Franz Kafka

    " ... " (Kafka in another words)
    Clarence Worley (Christian Slater), True Romance, written by Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avary (1993)
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    This forum helps me remember much.
     

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