SetiAlpha6: It looks like you've given me a whole lot more excuses to avoid engaging with any of the substantive points and questions I put to you. This is a pattern I've noticed with you. I'm wondering why you come to this forum. If it is not to discuss anything of substance, then why come? Are you just trying to virtue-signal to co-believers by repeatedly stating what you believe, without ever attempting to give any reasons for why you believe it? Are you here to evangelise, hoping that if you mention Jesus often enough some non-Christian might go and look him up, wondering what all the fuss is about? In starting this thread, you tried to lay down a challenge to atheists, which you assumed they could not meet. In fact, your post was answered in detail by a number of different people. My own replies to your topic started almost exactly one month ago. They were detailed. In characteristic fashion, you ignored the vast majority of the substance, as well as most of the questions I put to you. Specifically, in my post #270 I answered the three specific claims you put in your opening post, one by one. Following that post, as you will recall, I responded in detail to a number of your other posts in the thread. You ignored most of my responses there, and most of the questions I put to you. But then, just today, you posted #394, complaining that you still haven't seen the scientific proof of two of your statements from your opening post. What happened? Did you forget all the previous responses to those claims? Did you forget how I told you that nobody has claimed to have proofs of those claims, and neither are they relied upon by atheists? You tried to set up a straw man, saying, essentially: atheists believe these things, but none of them can prove them. Therefore, God. Your straw man failed. First, as you have been told, those things are not articles of faith that atheists have. We don't need to assume they are true. We don't need to prove them. Moreover, even if we did need them and were unable to prove them, that does nothing at all to show that your God is real or your religion is correct. Besides, as I showed, you don't even understand those claims, as is evidenced in the way you expressed them in your opening post. You made several mistakes about what atheists require and what science requires. Since those claims are all vaguely related to the theory of evolution, it is fair to conclude that your understanding of the theory of evolution is lacking, too. As far as I can tell, there's little point in trying to get you to think things through. All you want to do is to make excuses as to why you don't have to or don't want to. Meanwhile, you seem to find plenty of time to preach about your unsupported beliefs. Are you done here? Do you actually want to discuss the topic you posted any further - along with the spin-off questions and points of discussion that have been put to you - or should I close the thread because you're unwilling to do anything other than post more proclamations of your faith in God?