UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by Magical Realist, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Short attention span?

    Unless you try to bring them up publicly in a discussion of their objective reality. Then it becomes hypocrisy.
     
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  3. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Spiritual and/or religious beliefs are very personal and perhaps that’s the differentiator for MR, not speaking for him, though.

    Believing in UFO’s, space aliens and even ghosts doesn’t require any personal investment from a person, so it’s not that out of the ordinary that someone who doesn’t believe in God could be completely open minded about these kinds of things.

    So, it’s somewhat unfair to put believing these alleged UFO stories in the same category as someone who follows a particular faith, as if the two mindsets are the same.
     
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  5. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    So people who believe in extraordinary things aren't allowed to discuss them or their objective reality? That sounds like a justification for some sort of censorship.
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Well, that's an overreach for what I'm saying.

    I'm simply pointing out that MR admits he will believe any stranger about anything, no matter how fanciful.
     
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  8. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Really? Where did I say that?

    Here's what I said:

    "I give them the benefit of the doubt. For me people are trustworthy until they do something or something is revealed about them that is dishonest. Merely claiming to have seen a ufo or bigfoot or a ghost isn't one of those dishonest things."
     
  9. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Think the evidence is against you on that point

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  10. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    It isn't just about honesty though. People can be wrong without being dishonest. I can conclude that somebody honestly believes he saw something and at the same time I can conclude that he likely didn't see it.
     
  11. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Good point. Someone can be honest but mistaken about what they saw. But I still wouldn't assume they are lying.
     
  12. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    But, you’re not going to be mistaken about being sober, when you’re drunk. That’s the lie. He told other statements that were inconsistent, according to authorities. So, going with that trend, I’m not hopeful he’s telling the truth about the UFO encounter, either.

    I would suspect he outright lied for whatever the reason over being mistaken as to what he saw. Since he lied about being sober, and kept changing his story, that’s what makes him less credible. Before we even touch the UFO claim, it shows he’s not being truthful.
     
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  13. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know Wegs. The burn pattern on his stomach, followed by years of a strange illness. The bizarre account itself and why he would fabricate such an unlikely tale just to hide a geological find. The trace evidence of the burn circle, the melted goggles and burned shirt and undershirt and its radioactivity, and the melted metal in the cracks of the rock. The remarkably detailed sketch he made of the object. The godawful odor his son reported when his dad came home. The record of many comparable sightings and encounters taking place in the 60's and 70's (see below). Taken all together, it just doesn't seem to be hoax OR a hallucination. But that's just my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own in the end.

    As recently released by the now disbanded Pentagon UAP taskforce AATIP:

    "The report describes 42 cases from medical files and 300 "unpublished" cases where humans sustained injuries after alleged encounters with "anomalous vehicles," which include UFOs. In some cases, humans showed burn injuries or other conditions related to electromagnetic radiation, the report said — some of them appearing to have been inflicted by "energy related propulsion systems." The report also noted cases of brain damage, nerve damage, heart palpitations and headaches related to anomalous vehicle encounters."---https://www.livescience.com/ufo-report-human-biological-injuries
     
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  14. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Because it was a rich gold seam which he may not have a licence to be miming

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  15. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    So let's alert the whole world about the site and bring investigators to it to inspect it by making up a story about a ufo landing there. Yeah, that really makes sense.
     
  16. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Are you saying he was not capable of making a burn circle? melting google's? burning a shirt? and I've mentioned before he's mining for gold in a radioactive granite mountain why wouldn't he have a radioactive shirt?

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  17. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Well it makes sense if he if the landing site was at a different location from where he was actually mining

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  18. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Why? Why make up a story about a ufo at all. Just keep secret the site you were digging at. Right?
     
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  19. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Don't forget about burning himself on his stomach with a hot grid plate. lol

    So why would he go thru so much trouble to do this? Once again, no logical motive presents itself.
     
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  20. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    He is / was doing something (? Illegal?)

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  21. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Typical skeptic's obsession with slandering and discrediting anyone who claims to have an extraordinary experience.
     
  22. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I just wish he hadn’t lied about his sobriety that night and changed his story a few times.

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    But, I appreciate you posting those other accounts, which are really strange.

    I can’t recall if I’ve ever watched a UFO sighting or a series of sightings reported on CNN or MSNBC nightly news. Lol That would help bring awareness, and if more people viewed these reports, instead of just tucked away in the corners of the internet…I wonder if the general public would demand answers.

    The tic tac news coverage was pretty impressive in that it made the general public aware and the Pentagon couldn’t ignore it. There are documentaries, YouTube videos and so on that discuss various UFO sightings, but many are kind of fringe (and cringe).
     
  23. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    He did a good job of discrediting himself

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