What ever you think you know, you don't know.

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by RainbowSingularity, Sep 19, 2018.

  1. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    we walk past a box and look inside it
    as we walk past we see a cat inside the bow

    once we have walked past and not looked back
    we think about what we just expereinced

    is the cat still in the box in our mind as a thought ?

    is the thought of the cat being in the box a reality ?

    can or do we define reality of the current now to be that of the past perception of the cat in the box even though "now" the cat may have got out of the box and be somewhere else ?

    is our sense of "now" as "our reality of things" dependant on the past being a perceptual construct of our essence of time lines ?

    (i have been pondering this for some months)
    posted in free thoughts as this crosses several fields of philosophy, quantum physics, psychology, psudoscience alternate theories etc...

    feel free to give you casual opinion if you like.

    i have been pondering for months now on the idea of how time lines relative to our sense of space are measured against time events.
    does this measurement of the time of an event in a space deliver some type of real event of physicality ?
    is there any relationship to a physical event that defines a measure of time happening in a perceptual field relative to a past event ?
    (i am rotating several different concepts in my mind attempting to formulate a proper question about time space measurement of perceptual reality so as to look at defining a real question about the nature of what might be called "time" in "space" asa function of reality mass(particles or waves etc) as a measurable function of time.
    (can we measure time to show it has a physical value?)
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  3. gamelord Registered Senior Member

    We could die, reincarnate, and go back 2000 years in time as an ancient. We have no way of knowing. I doubt anyone has the answer.
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

    It is quite trivial to philosophically tie ideas into knots and wind up paralyzed, unable to even comment on the things one sees before one's eyes. Everyone does it as some point in their philosophical/scientific journey.

    Witness the classic brain in a vat. For all you know, even your walking down the street is simply fed to your brain through wires.

    Everyone eventually realizes this. And then everyone eventually realizes it is useless as a tool to learn about the world.

    We assume that certain things are as real as it is possible for us to determine. If we are just a brain in a vat, then we still have input, no matter where it's coming from, and we have no choice but to learn about it and make rules and models to understand the world.

    Were there some "greater reality"beyond our senses, it is inaccessible. Our reality is what we experience. That's no illusion.

    And those rules and models will hold as long as they hold, until such time as we have cause to suspect that we are being fed false (self-contradictory) data.
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  7. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

    We are ill equipped to adequately perceive reality. All we can do is try our best. People who realize this can get a better perspective. We should do our best to determine what is & why & how but those who assume their perceptions are the answers are probably wrong.


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